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Question of the Day - 14 June 2020

Q:

The Hong Kong flu pandemic of 1968-1970 was the last time when something of this magnitude has occurred. Any idea how Las Vegas/Nevada approached it at that time?

A:

Not nearly with the severity with which it responded to COVID-19.

Before mid-March 2020, the Las Vegas Strip was shut down only once before, for a single night in 1963 after President John F. Kennedy was assassinated. The reaction to the Hong Kong flu was much less stringent, even though it was a major pandemic that killed upwards of four million worldwide over a two-year period, including somewhere between 34,000 to 100,000 people in the U.S; most excess deaths were in those 65 and older.

Historian Dennis McBride recalls, “I was only 13 and living in Boulder City, a freshman in high school. So far as I remember, no extraordinary measures were taken — certainly nothing remotely like the reaction and protocols today. I remember only my science teacher describing the flu as coming from ‘that pest hole, Hong Kong.’ And I remember the school district providing some kind of vaccination for it, as the District routinely did for other illnesses in those days. 

“But I also remember protocols and precautions for the polio epidemics of the 1950s and early 1960s when they shut down the public pools and parents kept us from going outside to play with our friends.”

So it sounds like the Las Vegas Valley took polio a great deal more seriously than it did the ’68 flu. The University of Nevada-Las Vegas even presented a play about the polio epidemic, Summers of Fear, written by faculty member Robert Benedetti. (It wasn’t very good.)

UNLV history professor Michael Green adds some entertaining color on the Hong Kong flu era. “I have found nothing about any significant measures that Las Vegas took,” he writes.

“Interesting trivia: Frank Sinatra couldn't do one of his shows when he developed a 104-degree fever, so his son and a couple of others stepped in. Also, Paul Laxalt was our governor, and he got it. Otto Ravenholt, who then ran the health district, said there was 5%-20% absenteeism, but it was ‘mild to moderate’ as epidemics go.”

Since coronavirus closed the schools, you could say it caused 100 percent absenteeism. Not to mention two full months in which Nevada casinos posted 1% revenue and that only because of online poker and mobile sports wagering.

So no. Nothing has knocked Las Vegas for the loop that COVID-19, even so far. Not 9/11, not the Great Recession, not the Mandalay Bay Massacre. Nothing -- in recent memory, anyway.

The Spanish flu of 1918-1920 is a different story. Extremely virulent, this pandemic hit remote little Las Vegas, which had been founded not quite 15 years earlier and had a population of less than 2,000, particularly hard. It arrived in October 1918 and by November, several people a day were dying here; the highest body count was 12 in one day that month. The Palace Hotel on Fremont was converted into a hospital, schools were closed, the railroad stopped running, and store shelves were empty. Forty deaths were attributed to this flu, though it's believed the count was depressed. It wasn't until January 1920, 15 months after the first reports of it in Las Vegas, that flu cases started to decline and the last death was recorded.

 

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  • Ray Jun-14-2020
    Who else didn't shut down?
    Trying to relate this pandemic to anything else in the past several years is a little disjointed. The federal government, health care experts, scientists, all were shutting down the way people do things. THAT had not happened before. And technology has helped us fight a pandemic. In the past it seemed that the solutions were mainly pray...and hope for the best.

  • AlwaysTails Jun-14-2020
    Before my time...
    Didn’t Woodstock take place during the pandemic?

  • Jerry Patey Jun-14-2020
    Pandemic 1960. 
    I was in college and medical school at the time. What pandemic ?  That should answer your ?  The corona virus is a scam. It is no diff than ordinary flu virus. WHO and the good Dr Faucie and Briex put out false info to panic America which they did. It is about people control and most important to not elect Trump. Now there are the riots. Same issues. They are desperate and they will continue right up to election. I predicted this by the way. Gateway Pundit has a good Accurate !!! Summary of viirus. Do you know what!!! Will be in a vaccine?  Wake up America. Your constitutional rights are being taken. People control. Don’t let them do it. Vote them out!!! 

  • black jack Jun-14-2020
    Bad trip, Jerry?
    Maybe you should have avoided the brown acid - hope you get back to reality soon....
    

  • Kevin Lewis Jun-14-2020
    Always look on the bright side
    How much money is still in people's pockets instead of, say, Sheldon Adelson's because they haven't been able to give it to the casinos?
    
    Nevada casinos won over $1 billion PER MONTH in 2019. And that's not including revenues from hotel rooms, resort fees, parking fees, restaurants, etc.
    
    That money stayed in people's pockets--$3 billion or so that would otherwise have been sucked into the casinos' maw. I consider that to be an unequivocally good thing.

  • Pat Higgins Jun-14-2020
    Pat H
    I remember the polio epidemic of the 50’s very well.  A young teenage neighbor about  13 and the older brother of my best friend got polio.  My younger sister and I were put on lockdown. It scared my mother to death.  I still remember the trucks with larger  machines spewing out clouds of DDT which killed mesquites which in turn were thought to pass polio to humans by biting people.  Surprised the DDT didn’t kill people.  A scarey situation to say the least.

  • Randall Ward Jun-14-2020
    this is different 
    I don't remember polio but the vaccine was on sugar cubes and that was great. Hong Kong,swine, and laters had no effect on travel or every day life.  Different times.

  • Roger Gallizzi Jun-14-2020
    It's an election year
    When the Russian Collusion Hoax failed.  They created a pandemic to destroy the economy.  When that didn't work they created a racial turmoil, but protesting in masses were okay.  Now that that's dying down it's back to the pandemic and a Trump Rally will be dangerous.  

  • John Foisy Jun-14-2020
    Hong Kong flu
    For AlwaysTales -- Woodstock took place a year later. I was a junior in college when I got the flu, right before finals week. I don't recall the uni announcing any precautions or even any info about the flu. 

  • protravel Jun-14-2020
    Hoax!? Conspiracy?!
    Americans are fun to observe. From a distance of course.

  • O2bnVegas Jun-14-2020
    polio
    My first polio vaccine was in 2nd grade, around 1954.  We were lined up like little soldiers for the injection, upper arm.  I've seen historical photos of mothers escorting their kids to get the first vaccines, but no moms were there that I recall...I know mine wasn't.
    
    The shot hurt like hell.  From the preservative? or the needle found a nerve instead of the muscle?  Probably that.  Anyway, I did my best not to cry as I turned to walk back.  Then I saw stars.  Next thing I knew I was on the floor in a room with other kids who had passed out, the school nurse or somebody fanning us.  We got butterscotch suckers for our trouble (my first ever taste of butterscotch--yum!).  I guess I recovered, back to class.
    
    The next two of the three required doses were by sugar cube, given our in our church.  Can't tell you how glad I was about that sugar cube route of administration!  That was in third grade.  I don't recall school being closed on account of the polio.

  • O2bnVegas Jun-14-2020
    Swine Flu
    I don't recall anything about a Hong Kong flu "pandemic".  Or even epidemic.
    
    I remember the Swine Flu ado, but mostly because one of our doctors (I was a grown nurse by then) said the main symptom if you had it was "wanting to screw in the mud."  LOL.  

  • Alan Canellis Jun-14-2020
    Why the fuss?
    Candy, thank you for the laugh!  I needed that.  The scariest thing about COVID-19 is, we have not been given the whole story and the story we received is carefully groomed to manipulate the populous. As my great-grandmother told me, think for yourself, and don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see. 

  • O2bnVegas Jun-14-2020
    smart lady
    Alan, your grandmother sounds like a very smart lady.  "only half of what you see"...LOL. 

  • Kevin Lewis Jun-14-2020
    Unbelievable
    There are people who actually believe "THEY created a pandemic to destroy the economy." Beware of THEY! (THEM?) We've seen several responses here and elsewhere from people who believe, or profess to believe, that the pandemic isn't real and/or is a "liberal hoax." 
    
    That might represent only about 5% of the population, but that's more than enough carriers to infect all the rest of us. We're boned. We can deal with the coronavirus pandemic, but not the stupidity pandemic.

  • Jackie Jun-14-2020
    Still think covid-19 is nothing at all?
    See whats happening all over the world.
    https://virusncov.com/

  • Jeff Jun-14-2020
    And you thought "Sandy Hook never happened" was nuts.
    Kevin Lewis wrote, "[Covid-19 is a hoax, conspiracy theory believers] might represent only about 5% of the population,"
    
    I Googled this, because my gut feeling without having seen any surveys was that it was higher.
    
    "Apr 12, 2020 - A new Pew study finds 30 percent of Americans believe scientists created Covid-19."
    
    " May 22, 2020 1 In 5 Adults In England Think The Coronavirus Is A Hoax - NPR"
    
    I wasn't surprised by the Pew study, but I was shocked at the British one. Apparently, the Brits just *sound* smarter than us. 
    **************
    protravel wrote "Americans are fun to observe. From a distance of course."
    
    Since the late '00s, that's exactly how I've felt about Las Vegas after having been a several times a year visitor for the previous 20 years.
    
    The NPR story I quoted above, if true, suggests Americans do not have a monopoly on stupid.

  • Jerry Patey Jun-17-2020
    Pandemic. 
    Blackjack are you the asshole of the day. I have been on no trip. Were you alive in 1960’s are you one of the Chaz group or just one of the bleeding heart liberals living in cal or by. The 60’s fly was not a pandemic. I am surprised it is even called one. It was a flu type virus that most got over just like now. Mr Lewis carriers do not spread disease. They just have the antibody. From scientific studies carrier rate is 10-15 %. First case was not jan 21. My niece had flu illness starting dec. she went to reference lab and had her blood checked. It was COVID-19. That is what a carrier is. They do not spread disease. Every pos test they do is counted as illness. Most or not. Ventilators actually make disease worse. Forces virus from bronchial tube into the lung. 90 % of patients on vents die. Mr blackjack you are a SID as Tommy Lee Jones said in mem in black. He described ave. anerican as stupid ignorant and dangerous. For your info I don’t do drugs. I am board certified internist. F of