Question of the Day - 10 September 2021

Covid isn't going away. it is constantly mutating with the current version being MU which experts believe our current vaccines will have no effect upon.  So another emergency rush for a new vaccine, another trillion $ blown, and another fight with morons who don't get vaccinated touting the first ones didn't work. As for SNSA, it just means Never Going To Happen.  Well unless someone comes up with a cure instead of a preventive.  Current vaccines are not a cure, they just prevent Covid from killing you once you catch it.  Sounds like a good thing to me.

I would guess that the real limiting factor for Las Vegas is not the airports nor Covid but water.  They need to run a giant hose to Great Slave Lake and Great Bear Lake in Canada.  They have the water of 125 Lake Meads that are  full to the top. 

Have to agree with Jackie.  It could be years and years before this virus is under control, and stops mutating.  More and more it looks like we paid the Wuhan lab to make it, it leaked out, and its doing what it was designed to do.  Make people very sick and incapacitate them.  And it keeps mutating to do just that. And we will be playing catch up with vaccines, for those that will take them.  That airport will never be built in our lifetime or never.  Somehow, McCarren will figure out how to do it better.  And until there is a vaccine that keeps you from dropping dead from all mutations, this is going to get much worse before it gets better.  Expect more full blown lockdowns like we had last year.

or whatever they rename it to. When they built Dallas-Fort Worth airport, they put legal restrictions on Love Field Dallas to "encourage" the airlines to use DFW. For years it was forbidden to fly out of Love Field to any state not bordering Texas.

And DFW has big cities on both sides. Ivanpah has only Las Vegas, nearly 40 miles away. Who's going to Fly from Los Angeles to Ivanpah and then take high-speed rail on into Las Vegas? Like the Victorville bullet train, it would be simpler just to drive the whole distance.

If they have car rentals at Ivanpah, everybody's mileage will basically start out at 80. And what about the I-15 traffic North of Ivanpah? Even today, it often takes two hours to get from Las Vegas to the state line.

Is everyone that works there going to commute from Las Vegas? That would further confound the I-15 traffic--or they could use the high-speed rail. Or, to end on a positive note, it could lead to a revitalization of Primm.

Correct, there will be no "cure". Also, Unvaccinated AND Vaccinated people shed virus/create variants. That's science, look it up. Ignore dividing politicians on both sides. 

As for your comment...."and another fight with morons who don't get vaccinated touting the first ones didn't work." Well, "morons" as you call them who don't get vaccinated have a funny thing called a choice and can say any intelligent or dumb thing they want. I have a family member who's immune status doesn't allow a vaccine/med experts said don't do it. My family member is not a "moron". 

CDC data as of 2021..78% of people hospitalized and/or die with COVID are overweight or obese. 650k+ died already from covid in the US. 78% of COVID deaths/hospitalizations alone according to CDC data, look it up, means a vast majority of deaths and hospitalizations could be prevented if people took personal responsibility for their weight alone/health. Who's being irresponsible now? 

I must respond to the misinformation Jackie is trying to spread.
According to a growing number of top virologist/vaccinnologists, rolling out a normal vaccine during the height of a pandemic is an ill conceived effort.
Rolling out a "leaky gene therapy "vaccine" during the height of a pandemic is pure idiocy.
According to Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche, for as long the C-19 vaccines protect against disease – mass vaccination is turning healthy people into asymptomatic breeding grounds and spreaders of evolving, more infectious variants, which is quite the opposite effect of what mass vaccination was supposed to do (i.e., to generate herd immunity).
I'm well aware that this forum is not the place to discuss this travesty, but I didn't start it.

How did this devolve to another discussion of covid vaccine conspiracy theories?

The vaccines are safe and effective and anyone who doesn't get them is a fool. That's all that needs to be said.

Re the Ivanpah airport (we WERE talking about that, right?), as it stands, flying from LA to Vegas doesn't make any sense now, because of how long it takes to claw your way in and out of the airports at both ends. And your car doesn't charge you to rent it and carries your bags for free.

I could see Ivanpah as a destination for commuter airliners and such coming from the LA basin, with frequent (and free) buses shuttling people to the Stripand downtown. That could work.

Wow!. People sure get off topic! (I started writing this before seeing Kevin's comment). I'd like to address the question at hand. 30 minute commute? Has anyone tried to get to work in rush hour NOW? A 30 minute commute would be heavenly. I DO agree with the comment about CA traffic, but that's usually Friday coming into town and Sunday leaving. We never have traffic trouble south of town on other days or times. I would also guess that IF it is built there, I-15 would probably get widened an extra lane each way to accomodate the added traffic.

Lol, only an airport thread would start with Covid.  That said Kevin's second sentence says it all. 

Moron
psychology
Moron is a term once used in psychology and psychiatry to denote mild intellectual disability. The term was closely tied with the American eugenics movement. Once the term became popularized, it fell out of use by the psychological community, as it was used more commonly as an insult than as a psychological term. It is similar to imbecile and idiot.
More at Wikipedia 

If they do build a 2nd airport someday I hope the "morons" that planned and implemented the ill-conceived LV Monorail aren't involved. That monorail did not connect to the airport (a major need to ensure success) and it connected way at the back of casino-hotels causing very long treks. After its novelty wore off quickly its ridership was way too low for any enthusiasm for expansion to the airport, was so low it didn't even support continued operations. Would have been a hit if done differently. Instead of a committee that bowed to various special interest they should have had a pro-tourism visionary individual run the whole project that dictated terms to casinos, the taxi authority and the city public works dept. It needed a Mafia boss!

jackie.....non-sequitur/illogical response.  

lewis....."The vaccines are safe and effective and anyone who doesn't get them is a fool. That's all that needs to be said."

Given vaccine development to market takes 5-10+ years(see Johns Hopkins website or many other SCIENTIFIC website for this well known fact), many years alone are taken to study long term effects that may/may not exist for safety, your statement  frankly sounds ignorant. I sure hope it's safe long term but you/I/no one knows. Ask your doctor, scientist, etc will tell you WE DO NOT KNOW THE LONG TERM CONSEQUENCES/SIDE EFFECTS OF THIS VACCINE IF THEY DO/DON'T EXIST. Not studied. 

Oh, and jackie and lewis.....you do know after the dictation to low workers get the shot or get tested that congress conveniently made themselves exempt from having to get COVID shots, correct?
Rules for thee, not me...baaa sheep. 

Newsweek today...look it up..."Members of Congress and Their Staff Are Exempt From Biden's Vaccine Mandate"

To educate yourself, Lewis.....

"A typical vaccine development timeline takes 5 to 10 years, and sometimes longer, to assess whether the vaccine is safe and efficacious in clinical trials".

Science. Fact. Reality.   

Your comments are inane at best but as for Congress, how about picking up this book and read it:
https://www.dummies.com/education/politics-government/u-s-constitution-for-dummies-cheat-sheet/

POTUS can't order Congress to take vaccine moron.

Wow! Usually, in this forum I have experienced a change of discussion on Dr. J. P.; however, he has many like him coming out of the closet on this question. J.P., I apologize for criticizing you for your comments in the past not being on the topic of discussion. Here, in this forum, expertise is not required. Come on, Dr. J. P., what have you to say to enlighten Jackie?

so bitter...you're the one who hijacked the thread with an off-topic comment, caused the rebuttals. Given you can't have a rational debate without name calling....but let's digress..... 

"POTUS can't order Congress to take vaccine moron."

And if you read up on the matter, many constitutional scholars and legal experts are saying the same that POTUS can't act like a dictator and pass an executive order to make private businesses force employees to take a shot or a test. And this is will have many valid legal challenges. But you knew this of course given your vast knowledge on the matter with your "dummy" books you use as a reference.....Remember, my body, my choice, right? And we aren't ruled by wanna be kings via Executive orders.

Your statement about "typical" vaccine development is correct. However, the development of this vaccine was anything but typical. Duh.