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Question of the Day - 27 December 2025

Q:

About six months ago I was trespassed from an unnamed Vegas casino for winning too much at slots. This casino participates in the LVA coupon book, so I won't name it. Since my banning, I've received almost daily invitations to that casino's events and promotions by U.S. mail. These mailers always start with the words," You are invited to attend." Since I've been invited, can I assume that they changed their minds about trespassing me? I'd like to hear what the LVA law experts have to say regarding this situation.

A:

We're certainly not lawyers or even experts at law, so what we can offer here is little more than an opinion.

That said, we asked around and learned that when invites to promotions are sent out to players in the casino database, they come directly from marketing. They're not run by security, surveillance, or the pit for vetting. 

Marketing doesn't communicate with security and security certainly doesn't communicate with marketing to warn them away from players who've been backed off for card counting or banned, as in your case, for advantage slot play (at least we're assuming you didn't just get lucky all of sudden). If they did, marketing would or at least should in turn cease sending mailers and extending marketing incentives to you.

Thus, we believe it's safe to assume that the casino hasn't changed its mind about welcoming you back with open arms. Rather, it is safe to assume that one department still considers you trespassed, while the other never knew about it in the first place. We don't, admittedly, know how the law, i.e., the police, might interact with this situation, but if we were you, we'd be cautious about accepting any marketing offers.

We know advantage players who've been banned from plenty of casinos and are somewhat blasé or even cavalier about returning a week or a few days or even the same day (on a different shift) after being trespassed. But again, we don't recommend that. Best to play it safe when it comes to the risk of getting arrested. 

 

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  • John Dec-27-2025
    Interesting
    If the questioner were to go back and be arrested for trespassing, I wonder if it would stand up in court?  After all, he was invited to drop in.
    
    I think for the trial a change in venue would be necessary for acquittal.  I don't see a Clark County court crossing any casino.
    
    I am not an attorney but I have driven past a number of law schools.

  • Kevin Rough Dec-27-2025
    Bad Organization
    You would think if someone has been trespassed from a casino, that security would notify marketing.  Why would a casino want marketing wasting its time on marketing to customers the casino doesn't want?

  • Randall Ward Dec-27-2025
    risky
    an advantage player should probably learn about risk/reward, the possibility of an arrest or confrontation that leads to publicity or exposure isn't worth it.  Any handpay could easily trigger something 

  • grouch Dec-27-2025
    winning
    the casino are sure after the money as all they want are loser and if they trespass a person for winning on slots that is difficult to win on any way that is ridiculous. it would be a interesting court case if it went to court about trespassing if they sent a invite to you to come back but then again this town is run by the casinos,
    
    did not know you could get trespassed for winning
    oh well have a good day  

  • Trainwreck Dec-27-2025
    No Brainer
    Absent any signed paperwork regarding the trespass, a subsequent written invitation would trump the trespass, regardless of which 'department' issued the invitation since it came from the same corporate entity.
    Any ambiguity regarding a subsequent invitation would not be ruled on as in favor of the issuer.
    Having said that though, it might not be worth the aggravation in the first place 

  • AZmaddog Dec-27-2025
    Marketing and Gaming don't talk to each other
    I was barred from a Northwest Indiana casino (which is no longer in business).  After the barring, I was receiving in tge mail $500 in monthly cash coupons. This was straight cash, not freeplay or matchplay. I simply walked to the cage, showed them my player's card (which I thought would have notes on my account) and got the cash with no questions asked. This went on for 3 months.

  • VegasVic Dec-27-2025
    So Simple
    Such a simple thing to remove someone from the marketing database who has been banned. Casinos are run by some of the dumbest people in business. 

  • Linda Davey Dec-27-2025
    Marketing
    We get mailers worth hundreds of dollars regularly for someone who probably didn't ever live at this address.  A review of their name says they lived here several years after we moved in.  Have contacted marketing multiple times and they still keep sending them.  Just throw them in the trash now.

  • O2bnVegas Dec-27-2025
    What does it take?
    How much/how often does it take to be trespassed?  
    
    What exactly does the 'trespass' order specify?  Lifetime?  A year?
    
    John, LOL, like staying at a Holiday Inn last night...your driving past law schools might qualify you to render an opinion.  Funny!
    
    Candy

  • Louis666 Dec-27-2025
    trespassing 
    Clearly you didn't want to embarrass any Las Vegas lawyers by asking them. But it would seem tome an invitation subsequent to a banning would be taken by a reasonable person  as a lifting of that ban and any attempt to prosecute would be thrown out. The problem is you would be dealing with Clark  County judges where the law Is what the casinos want it to be.

  • Kevin Lewis Dec-27-2025
    Transgressing and trespassing
    Candy, as far as what it takes to get trespassed, the answer is: some guy who works for the casino and wears a suit didn't get laid last night. That's it. There are no standardized criteria. Furthermore, alluding to the independent nature of casino security departments as dealt with in the QoD answer, there's usually no review of or approval process for bannings. If security says you're gone, you're gone--for whatever reason or pretext. As far as someone getting banned "for winning at slots," I don't buy it. Casinos LOVE slot players. Folks like the questioner aren't banned for winning--they're banned for how they behave in the process of winning. Many slot APs have been trespassed for getting into fights over juicy +EV machines, progressives, etc.
    
    The casino absolutely does not care who wins the bonuses. Those sums are part of the already calculated payback. As proof of the above statement, Bob Dancer has devolved to a slot AP, and they happily let him play.

  • John James Dec-27-2025
    Trespassing Aps
    Re: transgressions and trespassing 
    Casinos are in fact trespassing player for winning on slots if they identify you as an advantage player. Usually it takes a history of consistent winning, but some places are more aggressive and are kicking people out for just checking machines . Yes someone will win the bonus so why should casinos care? The difference is if aps win the money they are keeping it if regular players win they will lose the money back .There are casino consultants selling software and giving seminars on how to identify slot aps and what steps to take to eliminate them.

  • David Sabo Dec-27-2025
    Scales of justice 
    Reading Kevin  Lewis's post proves that he is not AP but rather an expert in conjecture. Folks interested in learning something should skip his post and read the eloquent rebuttal just below it posted by the cerebral John James. Puff said.

  • Crazy Dec-28-2025
    No, you will not get arrested
    If you are trespassed from a casino, and security/surveillance catches you there again, 99.999% of the time they will NOT arrest you, just ask you to leave again or 86  you again.
    They do that not for altruistic reasons, but because it is a HUGE hassle to actually arrest somebody, also there’s potential legal liability. It’s a no-brainer just to kick them out again.
    

  • Howard Percival Dec-28-2025
    Tresspassed for winning slots?
    I'm at a loss to understand this relationship. Unless it could be proven that someone was actually tampering with a slot machine, winning outcomes are supposedly 100% random. It is also universally touted that casinos have the financial advantage in the long run and chances are (or would have been) that even a big winner will give a lot of it back over time. So, why tresspass a big slot winner instead of using the event as a great marketing piece?

  • IdahoPat Jan-02-2026
    Security/Surveillance/Marketing
    One of the most common pieces of player tracking software is Aristocrat's Super Playmate/Oasis 360. Not a day goes by where this casino marketing professional doesn't use it. And I can promise you, every casino that uses it has personnel in security and surveillance that has access to it, there are fields within it that can denote whether a player has been trespassed or opted out of offers, and you can run reports that will return only a list of such people.
    
    That said, the penalty for sending marketing collateral to people who have been trespassed is largely non-existent, because it's clear it's the fault of the casino for allowing such a mixed message to exist in the guest's mind in the first place. Sending marketing collateral to people who have self-excluded themselves from the casino because of an admitted gambling problem is a much, much more serious offense.

  • IdahoPat Jan-02-2026
    Howard ...
    ... the truth is rarely revealed when people are speaking about the reasons why they were trespassed. I've never heard of a single instance where someone was trespassed for "winning too much at slots," It's not believable for two reasons -- the one you provided, plus, what casino wants to see "their" money be lost elsewhere?
    
    I suspect the truth behind the alleged exclusion is far more embarrassing than the questioner cares to admit to, if there was ever a true exclusion to begin with.