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Question of the Day - 27 March 2018

Q:

I was wondering why video poker is 5 coins instead of 4 coins, an even $1 for quarters. Is it because of the odds of the game or perhaps the 5th coin is required for the much larger payout for the royal flush because it jumps from 1000 coins to 4000 coins?

A:
[Editor's Note: We asked Bob Dancer to tackle this question. When you read his answer, you'll see why he's considered the world's foremost authority on video poker.]
 
Any answer I come up is going to be a guess. I started playing video poker in 1994. While that's longer ago than when many of you began, the game had been going for about a decade before I came along.
 
The reason, I believe, deals with the way American money is set up. Dollar bills are only four times the value quarters, but $5 bills are five times as large as $1 bills. You can make the math work with the max bet at either four coins or five. If you make it five coins, then there's the awkward $1.25 bet for quarters. If you make it four coins, there's the awkward $4 bet for dollars.
 
If there were a common 20¢ coin, perhaps called a “fifth,” the problem would go away, because now five-fifths would make a dollar and five $1 coins would make $5.
 
You used to sometimes see machines with $20 coins in certain high-limit rooms. The reason for this was that a $100 bill served to make one five-coin bet: $100 is a more convenient bet size than $125.
 
 
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  • Sandra Ritter Mar-27-2018
    VP in Vegas
    My first trip to Las Vegas was in 1979.  My 3rd trip was in 1982. I was staying at the Riviera. That trip I discovered 2 VP machines, not next to each other. One was by an elevator, one more in the middle of the floor. I started playing VP and have been hooked ever since.  I was gambling in the middle of the night one night. My friend was playing roulette and all of the sudden heard a commotion in my direction.  I was playing 1 quarter at a time (my bankroll back then was $50 per day) and I got a royal.  It did not show the winnings for any royal, be it one coin or 5. My machine set off a jackpot alarm. Two men in suits came over to me and congratulated me. They gave me a hand pay. The amount back then for a 1 quarter royal was $125, double what it is now. I was so excited!  My friend came over and was so happy for me. That was a big jackpot back then. She also became a huge VP person.  That's my first memory of VP in Vegas.  

  • Alex Mar-27-2018
    4-Quarter Video Poker
    I remember back sometime in the 90's at the Four Queens and Sahara a couple of 9/6 Jacks machines that had max bet of 4 quarters but still paid 4,000 quarters for a royal (max bet). Didn't last too long. It also took a bit to get used to getting 36 coins for a full house, 24 for a flush...

  • Jeffrey Small Mar-27-2018
    SmallJ
    I always assumed that the fifth coin required on VP machines was to squeeze a little extra cash out of the players since you always should play the max to ensure that if you ever hit the jackpot you will get the max payout!  Also, is the author aware that the US did mint 20 cent coins at one time?  (1875-1878) The public rejected the coin because of its similarity to the quarter dollar.

  • Stewart Ethier Mar-27-2018
    Another possible explanation
    Video poker dates back to about 1979, at which time slot machine were electro-mechanical, not electronic.  A popular format for slots in that era was 5 lines (three horizontal lines and two diagonal ones) with a bonus payoff if you bet on all 5 lines.  So the rule that you must bet 5X the machine denomination to qualify for a full pay on royals may have come from this.

  • jay Mar-27-2018
    Settings
    I own my own IGT PE+ (older VP) and a Game King (newer VP). I can set either machine to take any number of coins from 1 - 20 and at any denomination I want. So while it is "convention" to use 5 coins/credits it certainly is not a fixed number.  

  • Mar-27-2018
    VP Birth Date
    I don't mean to put down Bob Dancer, but there's some inaccuracy in what he said. I'm surprised to learn that he thinks video poker was born in 1984. It actually goes back to at least 1978, because I know that I played it in that year. We had a deep discussion on the Skip Hughes Group forum to try to pinpoint the actual year VP was created, but we were unable to do so. I actually thought the year of creation was earlier than '78, but others in the group were sure that '78 was the earliest it could've been. So the "soft" consensus result is that 1978 is when video poker appeared on casino floors.

  • Mar-27-2018
    $125 1-coin royal?
    I also don't mean to put down Sandra Ritter, but I feel her statement "The amount back then for a 1 quarter royal was $125, double what it is now." is inaccurate or misleading. In the early history of video poker, Jacks or Better was the only game, and it always paid 250 for a 1-coin royal. This did not change when JoB variations appeared that had different payouts for quads, full houses and flushes. The standard or base payout for a 1-coin royal back then was the same as it is now. For a payout of $125, I'm sure that either (1) she was actually playing a 50-cent machine, or (2) there was some casino promotion or individual bonus that caused her payout to be doubled, or (3) she accidentally bet 2 coins on that hand.  Otherwise, the pay table printed on the machine's face-plate would've had to show "500" in the first box of the "Royal Flush" row. If anyone or the machine manufacturer has a picture of a face-plate pay table showing 500 in the first box, please post it for us all to see.

  • Justin Rasmussen Mar-28-2018
    NewerVPAddict
    I have only been going to Las Vegas for 3 or 4 years. But I always assumed the reason it was a 5 credit max bet was 1 credit per card dealt. Interesting to find out that assumption is likely completely wrong.