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Question of the Day - 16 February 2021

Q:

How much would a player actually end up with after hitting a progressive jackpot like the recently won Megabucks?

And

The $15.5 million Megabuck jackpot was hit in late December. Could the winner ask for all of it in cash, or is there a cut-off point that casinos will pay out big jackpots? If so, what is that amount?

A:

First, 27% comes out in federal withholding taxes. Nevada, of course, doesn't have a state income tax, so nothing comes out for that. 

Then, there's the question of whether the player, in this case, Kevin from Alaska who hit the $15.5 million jackpot, took the jackpot in a lump sum or as an annuity. (Boyd Gaming, at whose Suncoast the jackpot was won, is prohibited by an agreement with International Game Technology from disclosing this.)

Gaming attorney I. Nelson Rose explains, “The lump sum, which is the present-day value of future payments, depends on:

  1. Total – what the casinos say they're paying out, like "$1 million"
  2. Number of payments – say, once a year for 30 years
  3. The prevailing interest rates, which right now are very low

“I don’t know what rates casinos are using. They usually buy the annuity from an insurance company. Here’s a link to an online calculator.

“I put in $1,000,000 with ten payments at 2% and got $820,348.30. Of course, if you change any of the input numbers, the lump sum changes, often drastically. I did a quick search for lottery lump sum vs. annuity, but they all seem to include deducting taxes. Also, the payments are over 30 years and lotteries seem to no longer pay equal amounts each year, but rather an increasing amount each year.”

We tried doing the math ourselves and found that Kevin’s $15,491,103 Megabucks jackpot would have a present-day value of $12,708,100 if paid out as an annuity. The additional $2,783,003 in interest doesn't apply if Kevin took the lump sum, which we assume he did. Minus the 27% in taxes, Kevin received in the neighborhood of $9,275,000.  

And yes, Kevin can, and probably did, receive the full amount in a lump sum. It's not the casino that pays the jackpot. It's IGT, the slot company that developed and has leased Megabucks to the casinos since its inception in 1987. IGT has paid out well above $1 billion in jackpots since then, the largest of which was $39 million, hit at Excalibur in March 2003.

 

 

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  • Roy Furukawa Feb-16-2021
    Off Topic 
    I vote for S Lake Tahoe. Beautiful scenery and find some of the best breakfast houses there (great for hangovers). Two near each other are Bert’s Cafe and Ernie’s Coffee Shop. Unfortunately I didn’t find Kermit’s restaurant.  :D

  • Jackie Feb-16-2021
    27% ???
    Basically assuming he is filing as a single person.
    
    If he took a lump sum payment of any amount over $518,401.00 has to pay 37% in Federal Income Tax for 2020!
    
    If he took 30 annual payments on the $15,500,000.00 the annual payout would be $516,666.67 and would have to pay 35% of that amount in Federal Income Tax for 2020 and 2021 but future tax payment may vary or stay the same.
    
    There is no current tax table for a 27$ tax rate.

  • Kevin Rough Feb-16-2021
    I think you meant 22%
    Casino jackpots are often subject to 22% withholding.  It used to be 25% but was decreased a couple of years ago for the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.
    
    The withholding doesn't always cover what you eventually owe.

  • Kevin Lewis Feb-16-2021
    The most important factor
    The Megabucks jackpot is an annuity. If you take the lump sum payment, you are opting to be paid the "present value" of that annuity--what the promise of future money is worth to you now. That is significantly affected by interest rates; the lower they are, the higher the present value of an annuity. Megabucks winners can get a much larger lump sum payment than usual, because interest rates are historically low.

  • Deke Castleman Feb-16-2021
    This is from DapperDave (he's a CPA)
    First, even though they withhold 27% federal tax on the jackpot, the winner, actual federal tax rate is going to be 37%.  A very small amount of the jackpot will be taxed at less than 37% but most of it will be taxed at 37%, so even after they withhold the 27%, the winner will have to set aside roughly another 10% of the gross which will be due when the winner files their tax return for the year.  
    
    Secondly, even though Nevada has no state tax, the winner is subject to state tax in their resident state.  Alaska also has no state tax, so that’s moot, but a winner from California or New York City would owe an additional 12 or 13% in state and city taxes.  

  • Randall Ward Feb-16-2021
    jackpot
    I would love to owe that much tax by winning a big jackpot.  I wouldn't even begrudge Oklahoma their 5%

  • Ray Feb-16-2021
    many variables
    You've mentioned the many things that affect the payout, but some questions remain. For tax purposes, since he won in December, if the 1st payment doesn't happen until January, does he have all year to have a tax specialist help him mitigate the expenses or does he need to have taxes considered in the year the reels stopped? Charitable contributions, keeping count of losses, tax-deductible investments, etc. Also, does IGT change the way the jackpot increases based on the prevailing interest rates? Also, your example shows that the money needed to pay out was about 82% of the shown jackpot. At 5% (which was not unreasonable that long ago), they only needed about 60% to pay off. In other words, could it either take a bigger chunk of each bet to increase the jackpot, or more coins in to increase it?

  • joefloyd Feb-16-2021
    It's like winning a state lottery
    State lotteries seem to pay out in the neighborhood of 50-60% for lump sum payouts after deducting taxes.  Their jackpots are paid out in lump sum or annuities also.  I would assume the payout ratios are similar

  • [email protected] Feb-16-2021
    At 2020 Tax Rates
    At 2020 tax rates, assuming this is all extra income and therefore not affected by any deductions, and assuming he is filing as a single taxpayer, then on $12,708,100 he would pay $4,658,736 in Federal Income Taxes, or 36.7%, which is pretty much the full 37% as mentioned above.  Thus, it would behoove him to request extra withholding or to pay estimated additional quarterly taxes of 10% to avoid any possible penalties.
    
    Interestingly, if he instead chose 30 equal annual payments of $516,370, he would not even reach the 37% tax bracket.  At 2020 rates he would owe $148,547 in FIT, or 28.7%.  Thus the 27% withholding would be adequate.
    
    Given that most people could live very, very well on over a half million dollars a year, and given that annual payments would reduce the chance of squandering the prize as has sadly happened to many lottery winners, then as long as the full 30 years are paid out to his heirs if he dies before then, the annual payment may make sense.

  • Adam Cohen Feb-16-2021
    Next step
    Would the winner have to decide right then or would they have a few days to figure it out
    Next how would you even know who to trust to turn to for advice
    Maybe someday I will have these problems so I guess I should plan  LOL

  • Sandra Ritter Feb-16-2021
    From IRS.gov
    Regular Gambling Withholding for Certain Games
    You may be required to withhold 24% of gambling winnings for federal income tax. This is referred to as regular gambling withholding. Withhold at the 24% rate if the winnings minus the wager are more than $5,000 and are from:
    
    Sweepstakes; Wagering pools; Lotteries; Wagering transactions in a parimutuel pool with respect to horse races, dog races, or jai alai, if the winnings are at least 300 times the amount wagered; or Other wagering transactions, if the winnings are at least 300 times the amount wagered. 
    
    Regular gambling withholding doesn't apply to winnings from bingo, keno, or slot machines, nor does it apply to winnings from other wagering transactions if the winnings are $5,000 or less. However, see Backup Withholding, later.
    
    Regular gambling withholding is figured on the total amount of gross proceeds (the amount of winnings minus the amount wagered), not merely on the amount in excess of $5,000.
    
    

  • Sandra Ritter Feb-16-2021
    Ran Out of Space
    1.) The correct percent is 24%
    2.) Withholding is not mandated on slot machine winnings.

  • Sam Glantzow Feb-16-2021
    actual cash
    I asked the second part of today's question. You said he probably received it as a lump sum, after taxes, but wanted to know if he could get it as CURRENCY rather than a check!! Ignore problems with bulk/weight.

  • O2bnVegas Feb-16-2021
    would that I would ever
    My tax guy said basically allow the 37% (or whatever) withholding by the casino at the time (do we have a choice?).  Later get with your finance peeps, take time to work out the rest depending on your situation, like age, how much longer are ya likely to live?  Annuity over how long?  Charitable giving etc., those things to reduce tax liability.  I have no idea what I'm talking about, just what I recall him saying. 

  • IdahoPat Feb-16-2021
    Cash or check?
    I don't know how IGT transfers large amounts of money to individual jackpot winners, but NFW is IGT sending its employees around with millions of cash on hand to pay jackpot winners. It's a huge security risk, not to mention cumbersome physically -- $9M in $100 bills weighs almost 200 pounds. I've got to imagine it's either by check or wire deposit.

  • Donzack Feb-17-2021
    Megabucks
    So what does IGT net from the megabucks machines network?