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Question of the Day - 26 March 2023

Q:

Why didn't you mention the possibility of a baseball stadium going in by the Rio? That would certainly nudge the nearby casinos to upgrade their facilities?

A:

The reason we didn't mention the possibility of a Major League Baseball stadium, home field for the Oakland A's, going up next to the Rio is this: The answer to the question about the Rio "being dead" was long enough without getting into this bit of speculation.

Here at QoD and, in general, LVA, we tend to play issues like these slow and tight, as opposed to the fast-and-loose style of some other Vegas news sources. So many variables are involved -- Will the A's move to Vegas? Will the stadium be built at the Rio or out in Summerlin or down by Blue Diamond or take over the Tropicana property? Will the county agree to a major tax abatement? Will it be within the next 10 years? -- that it's a whole QoD by itself.

As for the neighboring casinos upgrading, let's first look at the Palms. Our understanding is that Station Casinos had inside info, or at least thought it did, that the Rio would be torn down to make way for an MLB stadium. That was why the company bought the Palms in 2016, when these rumors started to surface, for $313 million, then sunk another $700 million or so into upgrading the place. Of course, having stepped out of its locals-casino comfort zone, Station got its head handed to it and shuttered the property following the shutdown; it reopened only after the San Manuel Band of Mission Indians took the Palms off its hands at a considerable loss. But stadium or no stadium, the Palms has seen as much upgrading as it's destined to for a while to come.

As for Gold Coast, a renovation of the hotel rooms was completed in 2013 and more changes were implemented in 2016-2017, when Ping Pang Pong moved into a new space, the buffet was upgraded, and Cornerstone Steakhouse replaced the Cortez Room, among a few others. Still, it's probably due for some further refreshing and now that Boyd has spent a reported $50 million renovating half of the Fremont's casino floor, with more millions aimed at finishing the job, perhaps the company will turn its attention back to the Gold Coast. We'd assume that if the stadium is announced for the Rio's parking lots, Boyd would take a good long look at its across-the-street property.

As for the Rio itself, owner Dreamscape has already announced a nine-figure remake of the property, as elucidated in the previous answer. That might be because they know more about the potential for a stadium next to the property than they're revealing. Or it might just be that the place is in dire of it. Either way, it will be welcome when it happens.

In the meantime, in our eternal optimism, we dream of a better tomorrow, where, first, we can watch Oakland A's home games from our office balcony and where, second, in the immortal words of Ralph Waldo Emerson, "chickens can cross the road and without being questioned about their motives."

 

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  • Kevin Lewis Mar-26-2023
    If baseball cometh...
    ...and it's by the Rio, the Rio, Palms, and Gold Coast will: 1. Start charging for parking (quintuple on game days/nights) 2. Increase the price of everything by 50%, down to and including a deck of cards in the gift shop 3. Start selling "Executive Ballgame Packages" featuring tripled room rates and tickets to the game at a modest 500 percent markup 4. Double their resort fees 5. Add a $58 "because we can" service charge to room rates ($78 on weekends and holidays) 6. Raise their table minimums 7. Add a $45 surcharge for all rooms whose windows face the stadium ($65 on game days) 8. Downgrade their players' clubs so that $500,000 coin-in gets you one glazed donut.
    
    And the lemmings will come flocking* in. I can't wait!
    
    *I don't actually know what you call a bunch of lemmings. Flock it.

  • jpfromla Mar-26-2023
    Access and Parking
    Twain and Valley View will be the main travel pathway 80+ days a year for 40,000+ fans.  S**tShow #1!!!!
    Parking - Rio has 1500 structure spots.  The open air spots will be all but eliminated by the stadium.  Loss of 1500 spots.
    GC has 1800 spots (1000 in the two structures)
    Palms has 2500 (2000 in the structures)
    Total 5800 parking spots to support-
    hotel guests, visiting gamblers, employees and 40,000+ baseball fans.  S**tShow #2.
    In comparison, Allegiant Stadium had 15 concerts and 8 Raider games that brought in 40,000+ last year.

  • alohafri Mar-26-2023
    Summerlin
    I would doubt a Summerlin location as the Aviators have moved into their new baseball stadium out there. As a future resident, I would prefer the location near the Rio. I'd hate to see the Tropicana torn down...not to mention all of the traffic nightmares on the south end of Las Vegas Blvd.

  • Jackie Mar-26-2023
    @ Kevin
    Now just how did you know that the casino CFO's called  their customers --- Flocking Lemmings

  • Jeffrey Small Mar-26-2023
    Lemmings
    The collective noun for a group of lemmings is SLICE. A slice of lemmings.

  • gaattc2001 Mar-26-2023
    Hi Kevin, good to hear from you...
    Googling "Lemming Groups" turned up the following:
    "Most lemmings are solitary creatures, meeting only to mate and then go their separate ways. When they do gather in groups, it's actually referred to as a slice of lemmings."
    But that sounds like a put-on.
    Rio's many problems are well-documented, and Palms is--well--underwhelming. But I've always liked Gold Coast and often stayed there when attending WSOP at Rio. The rooms are small, but clean and comfortable; and the restaurants are great, especially Ping Pang Pong. They also have 3-2 Blackjack and some of the better VP in Las Vegas. It wasn't difficult to get comped, even after the Boyd point system upheaval, and even during WSOP--which is no longer a factor of course. 
    Rio and Palms can do what they want, but I hope your predictions aren't true for GC.
    I donated parts of two teeth to baseball in high school, and even survived the 1994-95 MLB Strike; but it's never been much of a draw for me. Football either, for that matter.