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Question of the Day - 04 October 2018

Q:

The QOD concerning The Drew and Marriott's involvement. Will the Drew have any gambling at all? Just wondering, because Marriott is involved with the Mormon church, so it seems contradictory. On the other hand, they serve alcohol too and that's also a no-no, so what's up with that?

A:

First, yes, the Drew will have a casino when it’s completed in 2020 or beyond.

Second, the question about members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints and gambling is a good one that’s floated around ever since Nevada, next-door neighbor to the world headquarters of the Mormon Church, legalized casino gambling in 1931.

It’s our understanding that in Mormon theology, gambling isn’t strictly forbidden, as are smoking tobacco and drinking alcohol and beverages with caffeine. Rather, it’s viewed as a lesser transgression, an evil “based on the morally wrong philosophy of getting something for nothing, of taking money without giving fair value in return.”

Gambling and its lifestyle degrade and weaken high moral standards, according to LDS policy.

Gambling is, naturally, illegal in Utah, one of only two states without any form of it. That’s why Wendover, the closest border town to Salt Lake City, is so popular with Utahans, including LDS. We’ve seen estimates that 90% of the million or so gamblers in West Wendover each year come from Utah.

Obviously, many are Mormon and they’re no doubt among the less devout members of the church.

Working in a casino, however, is an entirely different story.  

Again, it's our understanding that the church doesn’t advise members where they can and can’t, or even should or shouldn’t, work. The church allows its members to pursue whichever career might be best to provide for their families.

Many LDS have lived and worked in Las Vegas since the early days of the city. Indeed, missionaries from Salt Lake City settled in Las Vegas Valley in 1851; the Old Mormon Fort is the oldest building still extant in Las Vegas. Thus, it was only natural for LDS to start working in the casinos when gambling was legalized and that never, as far as we know, caused a problem with church authorities.

“Questions specifically addressing employment in the gaming industry have never been a part of general temple-worthiness guidelines,” said LDS spokesman Coke Newell.

In fact, Mormons have had a greater-than-normal impact on the casino business. Some of Howard Hughes’ closest advisers were Mormons, whom he trusted for their high moral standards. E. Parry Thomas leveraged his church connections into business relationships for his Bank of Las Vegas and Hughes didn’t make a single real estate move without consulting Thomas first. Thomas was also the first banker to lend legitimate money to casino builders and owners. “Parry Thomas, probably more than any other single person, fostered the development of Las Vegas’ casino industry and with it Las Vegas, business leaders say,” according to a 1999 profile of Thomas in the Las Vegas Review-Journal.

Our book Whale Hunt in the Desert, describes a casino host named Doug Bean who personifies the lack of inconsistency, or even conflict or contradiction, inherent in being LDS and working for a casino.

“Doug Bean is a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints," author Deke Castleman wrote. "Because Bean’s church is opposed to gambling, many players wondered how he reconciled his racket with his religion. For Bean, it wasn’t an issue. He considered himself a salesman. Players came to Las Vegas casinos. Hosts marketed casino perks to players. Bean didn’t ask them to do anything illegal or that went against their religion. And he didn’t gamble himself.”

Finally, founder J. Willard Marriott was a devout Mormon, as is his son William, executive director of Marriott International. Bill Marriott strongly supports LGBT rights, a position that's also at odds with LDS doctrine. In a statement a few years ago, Marriott summed up his feelings, which are similar to Bean's: "The Bible that I love teaches me about honesty, integrity, and unconditional love for all people. But beyond that, I am very careful about separating my personal faith and beliefs from how we run our business.” 

 

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  • gaattc2001 Oct-04-2018
    Utah, like Nevada, has no state lottery...
    and I hear that the Idaho lottery stores at the state line North of Salt Lake City are very busy, just like the California lottery outlet on I-15 at Primm, Nevada.
    https://www.deseretnews.com/article/705283155/Idaho-Lottery-is-hitting-the-jackpot-with-Utahns.html
    It's also reported that most Marriott hotels have TV porn channels available. 

  • O2bnVegas Oct-04-2018
    Hence, the comps
    "It’s our understanding that in Mormon theology, gambling isn’t strictly forbidden, as are smoking tobacco and drinking alcohol and beverages with caffeine. Rather, it’s viewed as a lesser transgression, an evil “based on the morally wrong philosophy of getting something for nothing, of taking money without giving fair value in return.”  (From the above LVA response.)
    
    What nothing?  I suppose the casino operators consider comped rooms, food, shows, Free Play to be "giving fair value in return", though probably I am twisting the so-called philosophy 180 degrees.  We "give" [gamble] our money hoping for "something" [win money] in return.  Casinos take our money, hoping we won't take theirs (and most often we don't), so they "give" us something of...value.  Fair value?  Depends on how you look at it.  
    
    Just me rambling.
    
    Good question and very informative response.

  • Stewart Ethier Oct-04-2018
    Spelling quibble
    People from Utah call themselves Utahns, not Utahans.  See https://www.ksl.com/?sid=24207511

  • Dave in Seattle. Oct-04-2018
    LDS restrictions.
    Are they allowed to be in the insurance business?
    Muslims cannot be.
    Mormons like to gamble. Muslims are prohibited.

  • kafka45 Oct-04-2018
    grain of salt
    It every mainline religion.. there's exceptions to EVERY rule..  Its about who benefits.  

  • RussellMorgan Oct-04-2018
    From a Mormon perspective
    I am Mormon and this is a question that gets asked of me a lot. As far as where gambling lands on the list of "sin" it would fall well below drinking and smoking. Mormons who would never dream of taking a drink will still chip in on the office lottery tickets, or drop $3 on Megabucks on their way through GVR to see a movie but rarely do Mormons go out to gamble. And only about 60% of the state of Utah is Mormon, so many of the people going over the border to gamble might not even be Mormon anyway (though many are, I made a few Wendover runs in my college days). 
    
    Now that said, there is nothing that prohibits Mormons from working for casinos and a fairly high number of them do work in the gaming industry, and are sought after for those positions. When your industry is centered around gambling and alcohol, what better way to avoid problems with your employees getting caught up in it than to hire people that don't drink or gamble?