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Question of the Day - 30 March 2021

Q:

I read a news story about the Trump Organization proposing a casino for the family's Trump National Doral golf club near Miami. Without getting into the politics of it, how likely is that to happen? And if it does, where would the funding come from? 

 

A:

Well, it's impossible to keep politics out of this answer, but we'll try to be as non-controversial as possible, as is our wont. 

First, the back story. Former President Donald Trump's son Eric floated the idea a few weeks ago that the Trump National Doral golf club would be a good place for a casino. That's the extent of it. No bill has been introduced in the Florida Legislature and no other visible signs point to any movement in that direction. However, the Washington Post reported that "behind-the-scenes discussions have included a measure that could allow gambling" at Doral. 

How likely is it to happen? Things can always change, but as of this writing, we'd lay 8-5 against. It's true that the Trumps can exercise considerable political muscle in Florida, where the governor, Ron DeSantis, is a close ally of the former president and Republicans control the legislature. 

On the other hand, it would be a pretty bold move by the legislature. The proposal, as reported by the Post, "would allow gambling licenses to be transferred to properties where betting isn’t presently allowed and prohibit local governments from intervening."

In order for that to happen, legislators would have to repudiate a number of interest groups. First, gambling in Florida is limited to tribal casinos and pari-mutuels (which include horse tracks and jai-alai frontons), and Florida residents haven't shown any inclination to change that. Also, the existing gambling interests, primarily the powerful and deep-pocketed Seminoles Tribe, have been fighting an expansion of gambling for many years and via many millions of dollars; the Seminoles operate six of the state’s seven tribal casinos. Another fierce opponent has been Disney, which has also spent untold sums on keeping commercial casinos out of the Sunshine State.

We should note, though, that since Disney bought ESPN in 1996 for $19 billion, it has been less vocal about opposing gambling, especially sports betting. That said, only a few years ago in 2018, Disney and the Seminoles bankrolled the passage of Amendment 3, which changed the state constitution. Casino-style gambling cannot be expanded outside tribal lands unless it is approved by 60% or more of the state's voters.

Finally, prohibiting local jurisdictions from intervening would be sure to initiate more lawsuits than Cleopatra launched sailing ships. Indeed, as reported by the Fort Lauderdale Sun-Sentinel, "Miami Beach is gearing up for a fight. The City Commission is taking up a proposal to hire an outside lawyer to challenge any effort by the Florida Legislature to permit casino gambling in its city or Miami-Dade County."

As for the financing, this part of the answer is a little more sensitive, but we will say this. From what we can gather via mainstream sources, we believe that the Trump Organization would be hard-pressed to fund any such project out of its own cash flow. That's not Donald Trump's style anyway. And given the Trumps' reportedly precarious debt situation, it seems likely it would be difficult for their company to arrange for large enough loans from the credit markets.

Of course, private capital is always a possibility. The problem with that would be Donald Trump's history with casino gambling. His Trump Entertainment Resorts, owner of the Trump casinos in Atlantic City, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy reorganization four times between 1991 and 2014 (Carl Icahn now controls it). 

Forgive us for ending this QoD with the following quote, but we consider it a pretty good benchmark for the possibility of a new Trump commercial casino in Florida. It was written in a commentary by CDC Gaming Reports' executive editor and long-time gambling business reporter Howard Stutz.

"Based on Trump’s gaming-industry track record, the only group excited by news reports that he may be eyeing a casino for his struggling Trump National Doral golf club near Miami could be bankruptcy lawyers."

 

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  • AyeCarambaPoker Mar-30-2021
    Classical antiquity 
    “more lawsuits than Cleopatra launched sailing ships”
    
    I think you’re mixing up your classical history. I assume you’re referring to Helen of Troy who is known as the face that launched a thousand ships? 

  • VegasVic Mar-30-2021
    Perfect
    The last quote is spot on

  • O2bnVegas Mar-30-2021
    keyboard is smoking
    "Keep politics out of this answer,..." Lotsa luck on that.  Kevin Lewis is likely at this moment typing furiously.  LOL.
    
    Luv ya, Kev.
    
    Good info, though, as usual.
    
    Candy

  • Kevin Lewis Mar-30-2021
    By now, people know...
    ...that Trump is a scammer and con artist who built his "fortune" (to the extent that it exists) by borrowing to the hilt, not paying his bills, filing for bankruptcy, and running away. Lather, rinse, repeat. Only an utter fool would lend him a dime, and he doesn't have enough cash to build a drive-through coffee stand on his own.
    
    But then, we're talking Florida here, so finding rich dumb suckers might not be that hard...

  • [email protected] Mar-30-2021
    ACP
    You beat me to it!  I also was going to question if they meant Helen rather than Cleopatra, or see if there is an incident involving the latter with which I am unfamiliar (I do believe Augustus launched a sea invasion against Alexandria when she was hanging out with Antony, so perhaps that's what they were referencing?).

  • [email protected] Mar-30-2021
    Battle of Actium
    Well, all this discussion did lead me to learn about the Battle of Actium, so that's a good thing.  Apparently there were hundreds of ships involved in the battle between Antony and Cleopatra on one side and Octavian (Augustus) on the other.

  • Lucky Mar-30-2021
    Not a chance
    There is zero chance that Trump gets a casino anywhere, much less Doral.  There are a few spots on Miami Beach, like Fountain Bleu, the old Americana (its something else now) and other hotels on the ocean, when they remodeled long ago, when there were ballot initiatives that lost, they put in the infrastructure for a casino.  They would be first, not Trump.  Sunny Isles (AKA North Miami Beach) once tried to get something on the ballot, years ago, for a casino at one of the hotels there, but did not get anywhere.  Trump will get nothing, has nothing, and I am not sure he even could get a casino license in FL, no matter who controls what.

  • [email protected] Mar-30-2021
    Always an insult
    Rich dumb suckers, very loquacious.

  • Kevin Lewis Mar-30-2021
    A new historical saying
    "Donald Trump--the face that sank a thousand ships."

  • Jerry Patey Mar-30-2021
    Fl casino 
    What is chance of snowball lasting in hell. You say keeping politics out of it. They just impeached a pres not in office. Chance of keeping politics out of it about same. Trump could find fountain of youth and people would complain. Indian casinos have strong lobby in fl. I am for them. They are getting some of money and property we took from them. 

  • Llew Mar-30-2021
    Casino
    What’s the name of the retirement community (The Villages?) where all the old geezers (many from my home state) hold golf cart parades with Trump flags, signs, etc?  They would surely support a Trump casino (Trump & casinos - their two favorite things) in their development. 😉
    
    Llew (proud geezer, but not a fan of my former employer)