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Question of the Day - 20 May 2024

Q:

The last time I played craps in Reno, I saw a bet I've never seen before: "Over 7" and "Under 7." Is this another Reno-only invention or is this bet found in other places?

A:

I have seen it in other places, but I couldn’t tell you where. I usually don’t pay attention to the sucker bets and undoubtedly this is another one of that gouging genre. Each Over/Under 7 bet has 15 winning combinations and 21 losing combinations. Comparing that to the field bet: the field bet has 16 winning combinations and “only” 20 losing combinations, plus two of the dice combinations (2 and 12) pay double (and 12 pays triple in a few “generous” casinos). The field bet has a 5% house advantage (2.5 % where 12 pays triple). So Over/Under 7 is a much worse bet than the field bet (Shackelford could tell you how much worse). It also has the added benefit for the casino of not having to pay a vendor for a copyrighted side bet.

So I doubt the bet started in Reno, but probably emanated from a greedy table game operator looking for an easy to understand bet for craps newbies, that would allow them to be fleeced until they knew better.

I’m alone in suggesting that “wising up” your players, craps players or otherwise, is a better marketing strategy to establish trust and grow business.

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  • Stewart Ethier May-20-2024
    Scarne on Dice
    In Scarne's 1945 book, Under 7 and Over 7 bets are shown on the California layout.

  • Foster Lee May-20-2024
    Shackleford
    Typo: Shackelford
    Correct: Shackleford

  • Jxs May-20-2024
    House edge
    It’s a whopping 16.67%, tied with the Any 7 for the worst bet on a standard layout. That is until you start including the Fire Bet and ATS (both about 21%). Free money for the house. But they’re so fun!

  • Kenneth Mytinger May-20-2024
    Add this one
    ... to the "Big 6" and "Big 8" on the craps layout.  Easy to make the bet(s) yourself; for those who won't take the brief amount of time to learn about place bet pays, odds, etc.
    
    (answer is written in first person -- is it by Deke, or one of the contributors?)