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Question of the Day - 17 August 2024

Q:

About the ethical and legal implications at the WSOP Main Event, I watched videos on the rail of the final table. I saw not only supporters of the eventual winner, but his rail also included a computer, some kind of running software of poker simulations with prediction models against another individual who was an amateur with no such help. Would this be allowed at the blackjack table? I heard maybe you know that the casinos dislike card counters, even without computers!

A:

No. This is not only not be allowed at a blackjack table, it will get the computer operator good and busted on a category B felony charge of cheating at gambling, punishable by 1-6 years in prison and/or a fine of up to $10,000. At least in Nevada and Mississippi. 

Nevada statute 465.075 holds that it is unlawful for any person at a licensed gaming establishment to use, or possess with the intent to use, any device to assist in: projecting the outcome of the game; keeping track of the cards played; analyzing the probability of the occurrence of an event relating to the game; or analyzing the strategy for playing or betting to be used in the game, except as permitted by the Nevada Gaming Commission.

That's clear enough. No devices, period. The statute doesn't define devices, but computers are known to qualify. 

Now, how does that relate to the computer used at the final table of the World Series of Poker Main Event? 

Friends of this year's champion, Jonathan Tamayo, were on the rail, coaching him during the final table and using a poker "solver," software that analyzes play. The rules about this are ambiguous and a determination has yet, as of this writing, to be made about it. That has fueled a controversy that is tarnishing the legitimacy of the winner.  

For an interesting look at it if you missed it a couple of weeks ago when we posted the vlog, Anthony and Andrew, along with Blair Rodman (co-author of our book on poker-tournament strategy, Kill Phil, and a World Series of Poker gold-bracelet winner) and Frank B (a tournament expert and one of the greatest gambling minds in the world), examine the situation in a dynamic four-way discussion, all giving their opinions on how it should be handled by the World Series of Poker management.  

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  • Bob Aug-17-2024
    Slippery Slope
    What's Next, every player with a headset and a team on the rail with a laptop? I'm sure he's got the Bracelet, and Banked the money... But Personally, I don't think he deserves a spot with all the past winners, who Duked it out "Mono e Mono" till the last hand. just using their skill and Experience!  

  • thebeachbum Aug-17-2024
    Agree with Bob
    I agree with Bob.  Yes, I watched your Youtube broadcast.  I think it was totally cheating and shame on Eldorado for not stopping it.  Maybe they will man up and stop it in the future unless they are selling rights to the rules also.

  • Brent Peterson Aug-17-2024
    How Long Was Computer Used
    Was the computer only used on the final table or was it used throughout the tournament? 

  • Kevin Lewis Aug-17-2024
    Real simple
    Computers at blackjack--hurts the casino--not allowed.
    
    Computers at poker--doesn't hurt the casino (they've already taken their cut)--allowed.
    
    It's just like, the only reason rape and murder are illegal in Nevada is that they negatively affect casino business.

  • Llew Aug-17-2024
    WSOP
    Out and out cheating, IMO. 

  • AL Aug-17-2024
    Frank B?
    I don't believe I've ever even heard of this guy, much less know that he is famous and respected as "one of the greatest gambling minds in the world". What is his last name? (Or, if he won't disclose it, why not?) Why did you list that quoted laudatory term about him?  [This could be its own QoD.]