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Question of the Day - 23 May 2020

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Questions. We get lots and lots of questions on the new abnormal.

A:

I’ve heard that once the Las Vegas casinos open, you will only be allowed to play at the hotel-casino at which you are staying, just like on New Year’s Eve. This means the Strip will be off-limits for locals unless they are staying at a Strip hotel. Is this true?

Not that we've heard. We'd be surprised to learn about it, but we've been surprised a number of times during This Thing. 

 

Is there any factual evidence that any Vegas Strip resorts will offer free parking and/or no resort fees as incentives post-shutdown?

Yes. MGM rescinded paid parking last week. The Cosmopolitan followed suit on Monday. Caesars fell in line on Thursday. As for resort fees, MGM didn't mention them, while Cosmo said they'll remain in place. 

We believe that resort fees should and will go away, especially since some amenities covered by the putative "resort" part of the fees won't be available. However, they'll immediately be replaced by what we're calling "DSS fees": charges for disinfecting, sanitizing, and sterilizing. You heard it here first. (And thanks to Bradwww, who suggested a variation of it.)

 

I have futures bets for my favourite English Premiere League, NHL and MLB teams. Are those all null and void?

We keep receiving sports betting questions -- lotta gamblers out there holding onto futures bets. The answers aren't clear yet, because they all depend on what happens if or when the games go on. But everything we know has been compiled in a blog post on our Gambling With An Edge pages. It was written in March, but nothing that we know of has changed since then. 

 

I have a question about smoking in the casinos when they reopen. The experts say a sneeze can spread virus about 6 feet, hence the social distancing. What about exhaling cigarette smoke? If a sneeze has virus droplets, then it seems to me cigarette smoke would have them also. Will the casinos (or the state) consider banning smoking as a health precaution?

According to medical experts, if a smoker is infected with COVID-19, it's possible the smoke the individual exhales can carry the virus, so second-hand smoke now carries an additional risk risk factor for the virus.

And we're sure a smoking ban is being considered at all levels; if ever a time presented itself for the casinos to conduct a large-scale experiment to test the conventional wisdom that a smoke-free environment would drastically impact business, it's now.

Some tribal casinos have reopened with smoking bans in place and VitalVegas has reported that Planet Hollywood, when it reopens, would enforce a no-smoking rule. But Caesars denied it by responding, "Untrue." We'll see. 

 

I was making a reservation on Hotels.com for the Tuscany for July of this year and there was a banner on the reservation page that stated: Due to COVID-19 travel restrictions, this property can only accept bookings for essential travel or stays. You may be asked to provide evidence of this on arrival. Is this the new normal?

This has been the new abnormal during the lockdown, with stay-at-home directives in place around the country and world. Some lodgings here have remained open, but only for "essential" stays and emergencies. The Artisan is another example; we understand that it became a place for people escaping abuse problems at home. But as soon as the travel restrictions are lifted, the "essential" part of the equation will, perforce, go away.  

 

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  • Dave May-23-2020
    Parking
    While it makes great business sense to ‘throw the patrons a bone‘ by eliminating the parking fee, you gotta remember where in the parking fees came from: response to the problem of parking for T-Mobile.
    
    Once events at T-Mobile and other venues return (with fans!), those fees are sure return as well.
    
    Hopefully, this time, they’ll do the right thing and offer validation/free parking for casino patrons.

  • rokgpsman May-23-2020
    Casino reopening
    I saw the following in a Vegas newsletter I get, I can't vouch for its accuracy and like everything else it's subject to change-
    ..............................................................................................................................
    The Nevada Gaming Board issued these requirements for Nevada casinos to comply with for reopening:
    
    1) Allow no more than 50% of the fire dept’s max occupancy for the casino.
    2) Employees must wear face masks.
    3) Customers are encouraged to wear face masks but is not required except rule 4.
    4) In situations where 6 ft spacing can not be done customers must wear face masks.
    5) No more than 3 players at blackjack table.
    6) No more than 6 players at craps table (3 on each end).
    7) No more than 4 players at roulette.
    8) No more than 4 players at poker table.
    9) No more than 4 people in elevators.
    10) Slot and video poker machines cleaned frequently on a 24 hour schedule.
    ---   (continued below)  ---

  • rokgpsman May-23-2020
    Casino reopening - part 2
    --- (continued from prev comment) ---
    .................................................................................................................................
    11) Equipment such as cards, dice, chips, etc touched by customers must be cleaned before next customer touches it.
    12) 6 ft spacing in all lines such as restaurant, casino cage, valet, bathroom, etc.
    13) 6 ft spacing between players on machines.
    14) Pools can open but patrons must maintain 6 ft separation (except small family groups).
    15) Pool chairs and loungers must be wiped down after each use.
    16) Nightclubs and dayclubs remain closed for now.
    17) Buffets remain closed for now.
    18) Hotel front desk is to use contactless practices.
    19) Casino security personnel and employees must enforce these rules.
    

  • rokgpsman May-23-2020
    MGM properties
    The same newsletter had this announcement about MGM properties-
    ...................................................
    MGM plans to only open two properties at first, then open the others as time goes by. The first two to open will be Bellagio and New York-New York. They are considering the following safety procedures, will make changes as needed:
    
    1) Forehead temperature check to enter the resort
    2) Face masks required for employees
    3) Face masks recommended for guests but not required
    4) 6 ft spacing in all areas possible
    5) If 6 ft spacing is not practical then face masks are required
    6) Plexiglass barriers to protect employees and guests
    7) Extra hand sanitizer and hand washing stations throughout the resort
    8) Installing UV and other antiseptic equipment to the ventilation system
    9) Hotline 24 hour phone number for guests and employees to report unsafe situations
    10)  Hotel check-in/check-out by remote methods, room keys issued by machine kiosk
    --- (continued below) ---

  • rokgpsman May-23-2020
    MGM properties - cont
    --- (continued from previous comment) ---
    
    11) No buffets at any MGM property for now
    12) The NYNY roller coaster will be open but riders will be spaced apart
    

  • Kevin Lewis May-23-2020
    Abandoning all pretense...
    Resort fees will be replaced with "just because we can" fees, averaging $50 a night and imposed with no explanation or justification whatsoever.

  • O2bnVegas May-23-2020
    Play only where you stay?
    There could be a reason to allow only hotel guests to play in their casino, at least in the early days of opening.  (How it would be enforced ???)
    
    Contact tracing.  Properties, or more correctly the health departments might have a shot at contact tracing should a spike in cases occur following the early days of opening, particularly in visitors versus non-visitors.  Otherwise if all casinos are opened and players bounce around like usual, it would be near impossible to isolate where exposures may have occurred.  It also could point to whether cleaning and distancing procedures (including enforcement) are effective in this or that property.  And the wisdom (or folly) of opening at all when they do.
    
    Just a thought. 
    
    Then there are the planes...
    
    Exercise in futility?

  • Susan Johnson May-23-2020
    abnormal
    Thanks for calling this time the new "abnormal".  There is nothing normal about it!  Also a great time to try non smoking.  I hope they do.  

  • May-23-2020
    Smoking banned?  HAH!
    I'm from Southern California, which is far & away the biggest area of origin for visitors to Las Vegas. The smoking rate for residents in CA is the 2nd lowest in the nation, under 12% (with only Utah lower). But for gamblers, the rate is higher. Here in CA, smoking is banned in all restaurants, bars, stores, businesses, gov't buildings, etc., something you people in the rest of the country aren't expected to understand. Thus, SoCal smokers look forward to going to Vegas so that they can smoke much more freely, especially including at gambling tables & at slot or video poker machines. While it's a bummer to them that smoking has been banned in restaurants in Vegas, they will smoke anywhere they can get away with it, including in elevators, where smoking is illegal. Vegas hotels know that they cannot afford to do without SoCal gamblers, so they will not shut them out by banning smoking in casinos.

  • rokgpsman May-23-2020
    California visitors
    The Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority keeps accurate records of the visitors to Las Vegas, it's pretty important to LV for economic reasons. According to them California visitors typically amount to less than one-third of all Vegas visitors and it has been decreasing in recent years toward one-fourth. You have to include all 13 western USA states to barely get to 50%. In 2018 the number of California visitors was only 23% of visitors that Vegas received. California has many more local casinos than it had in years past, so Vegas gets less people from California than it used to, especially from southern California. California is important to Las Vegas but it is just part of the overall mix of people. There are just as many visitors from the midwest/southern states as from California, and those folks have to fly in, so they are more motivated to visit, and stay extra days, spend more, which is a desirable trait to casinos. Checkout the LVCVA website at  
    
    www.lvcva.com

  • Jeff May-23-2020
    Four people in an elevator????
    From a comment above: The Nevada Gaming Board: 9) No more than 4 people in elevators.
    
    What? That is the craziest rule. If it's important to maintain at least 6 feet of distance between people, even allowing two people in an elevator would violate that rule in most elevators. Plus, elevators are small, tightly closed containers, unlike supermarkets or casino floors.

  • Carey Rohrig May-23-2020
    Reality 
    This china virus will make the 2008 recession look like a cake walk

  • rokgpsman May-23-2020
    Elevator usage
    I guess they expect elevator users to wear face masks, per rule 4. And by limiting elevator capacity to 4 people that will help minimize cross-contamination, like touching handrails and elevator buttons, holding the door open for others, etc. But I don't see how they can have an employee wipe down every elevator after every use. Maybe they will do like the old days when an employee was stationed in the elevator and operated it. That would eliminate everyone touching buttons.  "Your floor number please?"  He could press the floor buttons and do a wipe down on other surfaces now and then. Things are gonna be different and crazy. Remember when they first told us in 2006 at airports we had to take off our shoes? People thought it was ridiculous, but we're still doing it.

  • [email protected] May-24-2020
    inquiry
    Just so i read this right,did somebody say that smoking is allowed in casinos,cause if not then i won't bring cigars,i  usually only smoke them when im out there