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Question of the Day - 29 October 2018

Q:

This is a question from your answer to the Question of the Day of 9/9/18 about 6-5 blackjack. The writer, Andrew Uyal, didn’t address an important issue that makes 6-5 payouts on naturals even worse. Namely, that due to the lack of small chips and rounding, the only time a player is actually paid 6-5 (or $1.20 for each $1 bet) is when the player bets in exact $5 increments. Any portion of the bet remaining that’s less than a $5 increment gets paid at even money. That makes it an even worse play. Comments?

A:

Our comment is you’re absolutely right.

Since 6-5 is based on $5 increments ($6 for a $5 bet, $12 for $10, $18 for $15, etc.), each additional dollar bet should get paid an extra 20 cents for the natural bonus. But casinos don't use 10- or 20-cent chips and they always keep the change. Hence, the odd-chip payoffs return at a rate that's even less than 6-5.

For example, a $7 bet that’s dealt a natural is paid only $8, instead of the proper $8.40 payoff. A $9 bet, which should earn $10.80, receives only $10, shorting the player 80 cents, which works out to 5.55-5 blackjack. And for bets from $1 to $4 (in the few places that allow that), you're reduced to playing even-money blackjack.

Yes, 6-5 blackjack is bad enough, but the universal casino policy of rounding payoffs down makes it even worse than advertised if you're betting other than in units of $5.

 

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  • Pat Higgins Oct-29-2018
    Pat Higgins
    6/5 black jack is so bad that I even have a hard time playing any game in a casino that offers this abortion of a BJ game.  Bad enough that it is offered on single and double deck games, but I am now seeing it on 6 and 8 deck games.  Some times I think the casinos are shooting themselves in the foot with this game.  Too bad the people who play these games are so informed.

  • Rick Sanchez Oct-29-2018
    But 6:5 pays better
    I was at the Flamingo about 10-12 years ago waiting for a 2 deck to open up and was watching the 6 deck. One of the players was telling another how to play the game and his advice was pretty good until he got to the part where he said 6:5 paid better than 3:2.
    The whole table broke down crying when the dealer told the other guy to stop listening to this idiot as he obviously failed basic math in school.

  • Kevin Lewis Oct-29-2018
    It's stupid to play 6:5 at all
    So the further stupidity of not placing a bet that can be paid properly isn't much worse. It's like dressing in a tutu for a job interview, but then deciding to wear a bowler hat as well. In other words, not much worse.
    
    I guess a better analogy would be that placing the 5 or 9 in craps is a dumb bet, but some people bet $3, getting paid only $4 when they win. Or deciding to stay at a Strip megatoilet and then happily absorbing the resort and parking fees. Or going to Vegas for vacation instead of any of a hundred infinitely more desirable and less expensive destinations. Human stupidity is boundless and assumes epic proportions...

  • gaattc2001 Oct-29-2018
    Six-to-five is only the latest gambit...
    in a long series of Blackjack rules changes. In the late 1960s when I played my first hand, you could still find single-deck games dealt down to the last card. Double- and then multiple-deck games soon followed--plus they stopped dealing to the end of the deck--in response to the early card counters. Mid-deck entry was prohibited in the 1970s/80s to counter "back-counting" and "team play." Along the way we've seen continuous shufflers, "fake double-deck," "Super-Fun 21," "Spanish 21," and other variations. Many Native American casinos have "antes," which often makes it worse than 6-5. 
    It's all part of the continuing struggle, almost as old as Blackjack itself, between the operators' greed and the players' collective willingness to continue playing. Right now, the casinos seem to be winning; but in the long run, Blackjack is a dying game, and the game that most of us grew up on has pretty much died already. 

  • Dave Oct-29-2018
    Dying game?
    Blackjack isn’t dying. 
    Casinos are killing it. 

  • Roy Furukawa Oct-29-2018
    Just don’t play
    Take the best expert advice and just don’t play any 6-5 blackjack game. If you can’t find a 3-2 game at a betting level comfortable for you, go to another casino. Worrying if a rip-off game is ripping you off even more is ridiculous. 

  • VegasVic Oct-29-2018
    Stay Off The Strip
    Just another reason to avoid the strip.  Sure you can find a random 3/2 game sometimes but why bother?  Gamble downtown and off strip.  Free parking, friendly (mostly) dealers, more bang for you buck.  If you're a Vegas newbie or going with a newbie stay on the strip (but don't gamble there).  Otherwise don't bother unless you want to see a show or eat an overpriced meal with a "celebrity" name on it.