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Question of the Day - 20 August 2020

Q:

With all the cancel culture controversy around statues and team names these days, what might (or should) happen to the Runnin' Rebels of UNLV? Where did the name come from and is anyone suggesting that it be changed?

A:

The nickname for the University of Nevada-Las Vegas’ athletic teams, "Rebels," was chosen in 1954 when the Nevada Board of Regents established the Southern Regional Division of the University of Nevada (known then as Nevada Southern), a sort of rebellion against University of Nevada-Reno, which was more than 75 years old at the time. The rivalry is undiminished to this day.

The Rebel mascot, dubbed "Beauregard" after the Confederate general, Pierre Gustave Toutant-Beauregard, who started the American Civil War by leading the attack on Fort Sumter on April 12, 1861, first appeared in 1969. Originally a wolf wearing a Confederate Army uniform as the school mascot, it was transformed into the human mascot in 1982, when a local artist, Mike Miller, sold his "Hey Reb!" mascot concept to UNLV for $1.

The name "Runnin’ Rebels" was coined in 1974 by the UNLV sports-information director at the time, but it refers only to the university's men's basketball team.

In 2007, a bronze Hey Reb! statue was donated by alumni in honor of the school's 50th anniversary and it occupied a spot in front of the Richard Tam Alumni Center -- until it was removed a month ago.  

Which brings us to the issue of changing the name and mascot. Yes, there's a movement afoot in that direction, though it's not new. 

Students in the early 1970s agitated to rename the mascot to something more appropriate to southern Nevada and in 2015, after the mass shooting at a black church in Charleston, South Carolina, Nevada Senator Harry Reid revisited the issue. 

University officials have argued since adopting the Hey Reb! image that the mascot is "based on Western trailblazers in the 1800s" and to us, the mascot, with its 20-gallon cowboy hat, epic handlebar mustache, ankle-length duster, and big square belt buckle emblazoned with UNLV, says frontiersman over Confederate soldier any day. It's the "Reb" that seems to have prompted a change.org petition calling for a new name and mascot; it garnered more than 4,000 signatures and was submitted to the university, which seems to have led to the removal of the statue last month. 

Proponents of the change insist that the history of the Confederacy will always be associated with the mascot; public opinion is trending against glorifying the "rebels" in the Civil War; it's also offensive to Native Americans, since the frontiersman was an Indian killer; and the university could risk alienating corporate sponsors and advertisers. 

Opponents of the change say that it's not so easy to alter such a long-established brand; serious fans (season-ticket holders and buyers of UNLV merch) might object; and a 2015 report on the question, written by the university's chief diversity officer at the time, concluded that there was no real cause to disrupt the long tradition.

What do you think? 

 

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  • Jackie Aug-20-2020
    What I think?
    No matter what you come up with someone will bitch about it, just human nature.
    
    However, how about a statue of a kneeling prospector at a river with a slanted gold pan with nuggets in it spelling out UNLV in Silver (in color, not real silver) (For the Silver State) and name it Jim Butler.
    
    Now for the punch line.
    Call the teams the "Jimbo's" of the "Butlers"

  • Kevin C Aug-20-2020
    If you must rename/rebrand
    Dont name after a specific person or you might have to do this again. Often, someone who was practically a saint will be discovered to have done SOMETHING that SOMEONE finds objectionable and you have to do this all over again. If you must rename/rebrand, pick something resistant to potential controversy like the Tumbleweeds or the Cactii or the Dry Heat...

  • Edso Aug-20-2020
    The UNLV Heat
    Piggybacking on what Campbell posted, and appropriate with the triple digit run Las Vegas has had recently, why not just go with UNLV Heat.  You have the Miami Heat, and I'm sure it's consistently warmer in Las Vegas than in Miami.

  • Jeffrey Small Aug-20-2020
    Non controversial
    How about a non controversial nickname like the "Rattlers" or some other desert animal or plant?  Well, maybe not the Agaves' since that would cause lots of Tequila to be consumed at the games! 

  • [email protected] Aug-20-2020
    Give Me A Break!!
    Should the name be changed? What a CROCK!!!This cancel culture BS has GOT to stop! What do you want to change next? Our alphabet? Because that is where all the bad names come from. Our numerical system? Because that is how we find out the terrible percentage of horrible people that "oppressed"  others! What's next? Huh? Give me a break!!

  • Dennis Sterba Aug-20-2020
    Leave it alone
    Put the statue back and leave things alone.  It is called history

  • Alan Canellis Aug-20-2020
    Stop the Insanity
    Leave it alone.  Others said it well, "no name will work because someone will complain."  Why are people so hell-bent on erasing history. The people that don't like it need to be 86'd.  

  • Dave Aug-20-2020
    Logo / mascot
    (Why can't QOD include relevant pictures? Pictures of the old and new logos, as well as Hey Reb would be quite helpful. And although copyrighted, it would fall under the fair use rule.)
    
    Anyway...
    
    I live in NJ, so I never knew any of this history. I only learned of the team name and mascot about a year or two ago. I similarly learned in the last couple years about the history of the Nevada slogan 'Battle Born'. It seems to me to be an easy connection between the two.
    
    While I'm not a fan of the decision to change, I can understand the desire to do so.
    
    However, the change that has been made to the logo makes no sense. I mean, just what is that new logo? Some unidentifiable 'stuff' inside a shape reminiscent of the Welcome to Vegas sign, topped with the Hey Reb hat?
    
    I'd love to know what they're planning on doing for a mascot design.
    
    Then again, since the Vegas Golden Knights ignored the obvious choice of a golden knight for a mascot and went with a dinosaur named Chance, I doubt I'l

  • Dave Aug-20-2020
    Oops
    I didn’t realize i. hit the character the limit.
    
    
    Then again, since the Vegas Golden Knights ignored the obvious choice of a golden knight for a mascot and went with a dinosaur named Chance, I doubt I'll be surprised by whatever the new UNLV mascot turns out to be.

  • Texas Transplant Aug-20-2020
    Enough of this BS!!
    People have the right to be offended, but they do NOT have the right NOT to be offended by silencing others.  May want to think about that a little.
    
    I have the ABSOLUTE right to express my opinions.  Others have the right to disagree and taking it to the extreme, be "offended". That said, taking offense will NEVER overrule my right to the free expression of my opinions. 
    
    Given everything going on in the world during these turbulent times, if changing the name from "Rebels" to something else is so very important to someone they should GET A LIFE!
    
    Lets take this to the extreme.  I hate asparagus. I think it tastes horrible and its very smell "offends" me, however I do not have the right to demand that restaurants stop serving it.  
    
    Enough is enough.

  • O2bnVegas Aug-20-2020
    Notre Dame
    Nobody has complained about the Fighting Irish?  LOL
    
    

  • Ray Aug-20-2020
    Why the resistance?
    You "anti-changers" seem to be saying that you are allowed to be offensive because that's your right. The real facts are that honoring the Confederacy SHOULD offend all Americans. 
    
    Some examples...We do NOT honor King George or Cornwallis or any of the British that we defeated, twice!!
    
    I don't know of any Americans or South Vietnamese that are honored in any way in Vietnam.
    
    It's not that I personally am offended by confederate flags, officers, symbols, etc. (I am, but we ALL should be) it's that paying homage to something that was against your country is unpatriotic. Naming sports teams after people is always risky, THAT's where you can offend someone, especially that we don't really know entirely about their past.

  • IdahoPat Aug-20-2020
    Nothing about the Confederacy ...
    ... should be publicly paid tribute to, or honored. It was a treasonous movement, and they lost. Losers don't write history in this country, and traitors don't deserve honor. That said, I'm neither a Nevada resident nor UNLV alum, so it's not necessarily my say on what should be done -- that's up to alumni and residents.

  • David Aug-20-2020
    A long time ago.
    Illinois had "fighting" Illini Chief Illiniwek as a mascot and trademark.  There is no tribe named the Illini and there are no Indian reservations in the entire state, yet they retired it in 2007 because of the "perception" it might offend someone.  It has yet to be replaced. 

  • O2bnVegas Aug-20-2020
    more lost than just a war
    World history is full of bad acts, terrible things done in the name of economics or religion or power or whatever.  We can look back and be horrified and/or ashamed.  So much self-righteous indignation about how evil slavery and the confederacy were, and now the fact that "they lost" justifies erasing it as if it should never be acknowledged?  Young kids just like our kids and brothers and fathers were sent off to fight and die, no choice.  Families lost fathers and sons and brothers, not so different from any war.  There is something to the sacrifice they had no part in deciding about.

  • Fumb Duck Aug-20-2020
    How about...
    How about naming the team after the city's main industry...The Las Vegas Gougers! The logo could be a money bag with wings flying away and the mascot could be a weasel with his hand out for a tip.

  • Fumb Duck Aug-20-2020
    Additional thoughts....
    If you don't like the LV Gougers, how about the LV Bosses, as in pit bosses, the LV Bandits, as in one-armed bandits, or the LV Hookers, after another well-known industry or maybe the politicians or the LV Slappers, as in porn slappers. The possibilities are endless.
    
    Sorry 'bout that, I couldn't resist.

  • rokgpsman Aug-20-2020
    Sports team names
    The Washington Redskins pro football team has this problem now. They've dropped the "Redskins" name and all that goes with it that's been part of the team since 1932. Now they are simply called "The Washington Football Team". Such a generic name, but safe, is what the lawyers say. Nobody names the team they love after something to dishonor or ridicule it. Just the opposite, the name is supposed to bring out the fan's loyalty and pride in the team's wins. But we live in overly-sensitive times, anyone can make a complaint that this or that is hurtful and it gets attention. Often the very people that complain will use the same words they say are wrong. Listen to all the rap songs that use the n-word, or watch one of the funniest movies ever made called The Birdcage that's as popular with gay people as it is with others, even though it points out gay stereotypes. Many older Native Americans call themselves "Indian", even the "Indian National Finals Rodeo" is the name they choose to use.