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Question of the Day - 11 February 2021

Q:

Thank you for your answer about where the name Zzyzx comes from, something I've always wondered driving between Las Vegas and San Bernardino. Now, can you tell us where the name Terrible's comes from? What an odd name for a casino and chain of gas stations. 

A:

Terrible's does, at first glance, seem like a, er, terrible handle for a brand of gas stations and casinos. But it's also a legendary name in Las Vegas; it's so familiar that few people who’ve been around for any length of time give it a second thought.

The story starts in Chicago in the 1930s, when one Ed Herbst bought a gas station. A marketer at heart, Herbst, who's been called the "P.T. Barnum of Gasoline," soon realized what a cutthroat business he’d entered and that his station had to stand out to be successful. He subsequently used every trick in the book to gain market share. He held giveaways with a fill-up, such as flowers for the ladies and sodas for the kiddies; for the menfolk, he hired teenage girls to pump gas. Everyone got bubblegum. He offered free pony rides behind his station and sold beer, cigarettes, and magazines inside. Ed Herbst is credited with establishing the full-service gas station, as opposed to just the ordinary run-of-the-mill gas station.

Most importantly, he was admittedly shameless in cutting his gasoline profit margin to the bone and making it up in volume and inside sales. He recognized that car owners would drive miles out of their way to save a nickel on a gallon of gas, then head inside and pay through the nose for marked-up convenience goods.

In the late 1940s, Ed Herbst packed up his family and moved west, opening a chain of Herbst service stations as he went and undercutting the competition so severely that he wound up with an unsavory reputation. The story goes that when he applied for a business license in Cheyenne, Wyoming, one of the city counselors, who happened to own a gas station, exclaimed, "If we let that terrible Herbst in, we'll all go under!"

When Ed heard the words "terrible Herbst," he thought that would be a, er, wonderful name for his empire.

The Herbsts settled in southern Nevada, where the big signs above Terrible Herbst service stations tickled newcomers. This writer once brought a girlfriend to Las Vegas for the first time, who got such a kick out of the name that she adopted it as a synonym for a hangover. "I had so much to drink last night that this morning, I have a terrible herbst!"

Along the way, the Herbst was dropped in favor of just plain Terrible's, which is symbolized by the familiar "Bad Guy" cowboy logo.

 

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  • Adam Cohen Feb-11-2021
    One of their patches
    Check out one of their gasoline patches here
    https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/terrible-herbst-oil-company-large-1925465745

  • salukidean Feb-11-2021
    How things have changed!
    It’s amazing that a gas station established on low gas prices is now 20 cents a gallon higher than anyone else!

  • Gene Brown Feb-11-2021
    LoL 
    That’s just Terrible! Gasoline prices at least 20 cents above all others in Vegas?

  • Ken Orgera Feb-11-2021
    Terribles
    Loved their Casino and Hotel!!! Great VP, Comps, large rooms, great pool area. Decent food at a great price. Please buy back your casino!!

  • Kevin Lewis Feb-11-2021
    I'm always amazed...
    That when someone sells a product at an absolute minimum profit margin and still makes money, the reaction of the competition is not to figure out how he did it and maybe emulate him--instead, they try to figure out ways to put him out of business. That's why every casino in Vegas is terrible.

  • O2bnVegas Feb-11-2021
    thanks
    Wonderful history of this name.  Didn't Herbst take over the Continental Hotel Casino to briefly be Terribles?  Or was it the other way around?  Or not at all?  Thanks again for "the rest of the story."
    
    Candy

  • Kevin Lewis Feb-11-2021
    Yes, it was...
    The Continental before it became Terrible's. I absolutely loved that joint--it was a total dive. Great food and fantastic promotions. It was definitely a downmarket locals' joint--if you wore a shirt that could be buttoned, you felt like you were overdressed. Sadly, when Terrible's took over, they made the promos even better--until the local bottom-feeders descended en masse and burned out every decent play and promo.