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Question of the Day - 09 April 2025

Q:

In your QoD about Minsky's burlesque shows, you mentioned that Minsky produced shows at various hotel-casinos, including the Thunderbird. I'd never heard that there was a place called the Thunderbird in Las Vegas. Where was it and how long did it last? 

A:

Almost every time we mention the Thunderbird, we get a question about it. The last was a couple of years ago, so here's the answer again. 

The Thunderbird Hotel and Casino opened in 1948 at a total cost of $3 million (nearly $40 million today's dollars).

Named for a mythological Navajo creature, it was built by Marion Hicks, a local contractor who also built the El Cortez downtown earlier that decade, and Clifford Jones, who was at the time Nevada's 35-year-old lieutenant governor. It was the fourth casino to open on the incipient Las Vegas Strip, after the El Rancho Vegas (1940), Last Frontier (1941), and Flamingo (1946). It was located a long block south of what was then known as San Francisco (now Sahara) Avenue.

By some accounts, the Thunderbird was the original locals joint, catering to Las Vegans with quality inexpensive food and an informality unknown at the other three resorts, where a tacit dress code was in force. It also had a bowling alley, the only one the Strip has ever had (yes, South Point has a bowling center, but it's not considered the Strip). And its Joe's Oyster Bar was renowned far and wide as the first, and perhaps best, oyster bar ever to serve a Las Vegas casino. In addition, since Lt. Governor Jones had the juice, the Thunderbird turned into a hangout for many prominent state politicians and, therefore, celebrities and hangers-on.

The Thunderbird's heyday lasted till the mid-1950s, when there were 10 major resorts on the Strip. Also, in 1955, the Nevada Tax Commission (the forerunner of the state Gaming Control Board and Gaming Commission) exercised its authority on the Thunderbird, revoking its gambling license after a sting operation conducted by local newspapermen uncovered a loan to the hotel by Jake Lansky, Meyer Lansky's brother (which you can read about in the great exposé book by Ed Reid and Ovid Demaris, The Green Felt Jungle, published in 1963). The courts later restored the Thunderbird's license, but its aura took a big hit and continued to fade.

The casino stumbled along for the next nine years until it was sold to Del Webb, a partner in the Sahara, which had opened a block north of the Thunderbird in 1952. Webb bought it in 1964 for $10 million and ran it till 1972, when he sold it to Caesars World for $13 million.

Par for the course, soon after buying it, the Caesars bosses realized they didn't want the old white elephant, so they essentially had Parry Thomas, the banker who held the $9 million mortgage on the property, repossess it. It took a few years, but Thomas finally sold it to Major Riddle, a partner in the Dunes; Riddle changed its name to the Silverbird. The Silverbird's poker room was known for being the meanest shark tank in town.

A few years later in 1981, Riddle unloaded it to Ed Torres, a longtime casino manager who also owned the Aladdin in a partnership with Wayne Newton and had had an interest in the downtown Fremont for many years.

Torres renamed it the El Rancho, after the Strip's original hotel-casino, the El Rancho Vegas, which was located directly across the Strip until it burned to the ground in 1960 and was never rebuilt. Torres managed, though just barely, to keep the El Rancho alive; it limped along for another 10 years, with Torres trying to sell it, dropping the price as low as $25 million, and still finding no takers.

The Thunderbird/Silverbird/El Rancho died in 1992 at the young age of 44.

It then stood for many years, dark and shuttered, a brooding hulk, somewhat like the fate of the skyscraper that replaced it. Even vacant, the property was ill-fated.

A number of developers and dreamers announced plans for the derelict building, most notable of which was Countryland USA; this group even went so far as to put a fence around the property and erect a big sign with the new name. Nothing happened. Then a pipe dream called Starship Orion was announced. Nothing happened. Then a London-themed resort was announced. Nothing.

Finally, Turnberry Associates picked up the 21-acre property for roughly $45 million in 1999, a bargain $2.14 million an acre. Nothing more than an eyesore in the view from Turnberry's upscale high-rise condos behind it, the El Rancho was imploded on September 30, 2000.

In May 2005, Turnberry announced that it would develop a $1.5 billion 4,000-room Fontainebleau Las Vegas, modeled on Miami Beach's famous Fontainebleau Hotel. Construction was supposed to have begun by the end of 2005. Nothing happened.

The rest of the story has been told in all of our coverage of Fontainebleau Las Vegas, which opened, finally, after more than 15 years dark and shuttered, a brooding hulk, in December 2023. 

 

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  • gac007 Apr-09-2025
    Best Video poker machines
    A while back I thought there was an article about where in specific casinos you can find the best video poker machines. If there was such an article is it still available? 

  • [email protected] Apr-09-2025
    Like a crap location in an old shopping mall...
    ...that location is one of those places!  Good story gang.

  • Jonathan Byron Apr-09-2025
    gac007
    vpfree2.com is the site to check for the best VP machines in any casino

  • AZmaddog Apr-09-2025
    "Dark, shuttered, brooding hulk"
    The only time I hear those words is when the LVA describes a closed casino. I guess this also applies to places like Reno and Tunica.

  • Henry Apr-09-2025
    Riddle was dead
    “In 1981, Riddle unloaded it to Ed Torres” –– Riddle died in July 1980. Ed Torres bought the place from a bankruptcy auction. Also FYI, the photo of "Thunderbird Hotel" on Las Vegas Advisor's social media is a photo of downtown LV's Thuderbird/Aruba motel. 

  • Jeffrey Small Apr-09-2025
    Lots of Thunderbirds
    I recall staying at a Thunderbird Hotel across from the original Twins Baseball Stadium when I was working in Minneapolis.  As I recall the decor was similar to the one in Las Vegas.  I found the following reference on line--"The Thunderbird Motel was located on the 494 strip. It was built in 1962 and had 255 rooms. The motel was one of 39 Thunderbird motels across the country, including the one in Las Vegas, according to the Minneapolis Tribune (August 18, 1962)." So apparently my memory was correct--there were Thunderbirds all over--anyone else remember staying in one outside of LAS?

  • Raymond Apr-09-2025
    When I was in my twenties...
    ...the "Silverbird" wasn't a bad place to play.  Low minimums, inexpensive restaurants, more "locals" feel than The Strip.  I remember staying at Circus Circus and playing at the Silverbird when that was what my travel budget allowed.
    
    A little over 40 years later, I so glad I can afford far more.  But I remember the Bird as a funky, fun place.

  • Bob Nelson Apr-09-2025
    I guess I have been there…
    The El Rancho had a good lobster or steak and lobster special for 7 or 8$.  I also seem to remember some good blackjack rules or payoffs that were actually favorable to the player.

  • Terry Coniglio Apr-11-2025
    My visit there in the 70’s
    Sinatra made fun of the Thunderbird while on stage at the Sands as a joint no one wanted to be seen at. I remember walking down the strip and stopping in to play BJ there in the 70’s, finding the felt surfaces to be all worn and tattered. The dealer I had did not seem to be happy to be there.