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Question of the Day - 15 October 2018

Q:

I noticed in the September LVA that Phil Collins would be playing at MGM Grand on 10/27 with tickets starting at $55. Unfortunately, I waited a couple weeks before going to the MGM website and by then they were sold out. At StubHub tickets start at $260 and at VividSeats they start at $345. My question is, do you have any tips on how to score a hot ticket in Las Vegas, preferably at face value?

A:

The good news about Las Vegas is that it's the number-one live-music destination in the world. All the hottest acts come through here; along with the many residencies, literally millions of tickets to all these acts are sold every year.

So you'd think they'd be easy tickets to get. But the bad news, in terms of pricing and availability, is this: Rarely do the biggest artists play to the potential tickets they can sell. They can perform only so many nights, especially with grueling road schedules (one of the reasons that Las Vegas residencies are so popular with superstars); the venues have only so many booking dates; and they don't want empty seats, leaving ticket revenues on the floor. This always leaves demand. In addition, before tickets go on sale, credit-card members, fan clubs, the promoter, the manager, the venue, etc. get first dibs.

Then, using sophisticated tech, ticket resellers try to buy up big blocks of the most in-demand tickets in order to really jack up the prices and make big profits -- which is why we’re not surprised to hear that StubHub and Vivid are charging five to eight times the cost of the starting price of tickets.

Bottom line: Regular fans are shut out from the initial ticket prices. 

In the case of Phil Collins, it gets worse. Because of his physical condition he is playing a very limited number of dates (13 in the U.S.) on his “Not Dead Yet Live” tour. (Collins has had serious back problems for years and he often performs sitting in a chair.) In addition, Collins is one of the world’s best-selling artists; only he and Paul McCartney have sold more than 100 million records worldwide as solo artists and band members.

A quick check on Craig’s List at the time of this writing (October 11) turned up three private ticket resellers for Collins’ Vegas show. One was asking $800, another $700, and a third $200. It seems to us that if you pay attention and jump on deals like the $200 one, you might save yourself some dough.

Another idea comes from Pat Christenson, author of our book Rock Vegas (the one to read if you're at all interested in the history of live music and how it evolved in the U.S., including how Las Vegas became the world's number-one live-music destination, with a whole chapter on ticketing issues). He tells us, "Ticket prices on secondary sites like StubHub peak in the middle of a sales cycle. Keep an eye out for bargains in the last days before the concert, right up to showtime."

Finally, you could also wait until the night of the concert and show up at the MGM Grand Garden Arena, looking for scalpers, but that’s a little risky. Counterfeit tickets aren’t uncommon and for a show that's been sold out since day one, you probably won't get much of a bargain that night.

Waddaya say, QoDers? Any other suggestions at this late date for the Phil Collins concert?

 

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  • Kevin Lewis Oct-15-2018
    Why on earth would anyone bother?
    I see all these acts pop up--70s and 80s performers--and my first reaction is--isn't he (she) dead? Then I realized that being dead, or close, is no obstacle whatsoever to headlining a Vegas show.
    Anyway, I would never cough up that kind of money for an hour or so's entertainment. I could buy every CD the artist has ever made and listen to them in the comfort of my own home, with hundreds of $$$ left over. Plus, the concert experience isn't all that much fun, unless you ENJOY being in the midst of a screaming mob. What's worst of all is that the really experienced (old/dead) performers are so bored with singing their hits for the zillionth time that the modify them to the point of being unrecognizable. Elton John in particular does this. I suppose I might, too, if I was singing "Candle in the Wind" for the 4,789th time.

  • O2bnVegas Oct-15-2018
    late seating?
    Do concert venues in Las Vegas have a 'stand-by' system?  How late into a concert would they seat someone if a ticket holder(s) did not show up, or do they do this at all?  In NYC we were sold standing room only tickets for a sold out show, and ushered to the 'standing room' area behind seats at the back of the theater.  At the end of Act I we were allowed to take seats that had been sold but were not occupied by that time.  Just wondering if they do that in Las Vegas for sold out shows.

  • Roy Furukawa Oct-15-2018
    Shocked
    I am shocked how much the markup is already on Phil Collins' show. I think you'd have to play the waiting game to find more reasonable ticket prices. I was lucky to see him in L.A. when he was touring in the 90's.

  • Jahnke Oct-15-2018
    Scalpers
    Whatever you do, don't buy tickets from scalpers--only buy your tickets from the box office or a reputable ticket office.  Several years ago, we went to see Jerry Seinfeld perform at Caesars Palace.  We were told that the show was sold out, but to stand in line to see if the casino turned in any tickets at the last minute that they didn't need for comps.  We were also warned by the box office manager not to buy any tickets from anyone that approached us.  He said that people were scammed every day.  We were indeed approached by several people that looked and sounded like they could be legitimate, but we declined their offers.  A little while later, we saw all of these people that approached us in a huddle together on the casino floor--they were all scammers working together with different approaches.

  • Victor Shaw Oct-15-2018
    Trick
    The day after the show, the tickets are much cheaper and serve only as souvenirs. 

  • VegasVic Oct-16-2018
    TGTBT
    If the going rate is ~$700 and you see something on CL for $200, run away.  So many scams on CL.  No way someone is selling tix that cheap.  I'm sure they have a "story" if you ask them.  "Medical bills" is always a big one . "Car repairs" is another.  Don't take the bait.