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Question of the Day - 15 September 2022

Q:

I just had occasion to be in Las Vegas and Reno on the same trip. I rented a car in both cities. I couldn't help noticing that the traffic lights in Reno tend to be better synchronized than Vegas, like they're on sensors, while Vegas's are on timers. The worst was on Twain behind the Rio, right outside your office! Can you shed some (traffic) light on this? 

A:

We get this question and variations thereof fairly frequently. Before we looked into it, we wondered about it ourselves, sitting seemingly forever at red lights where there’s no cross traffic, like every day on Twain behind the Rio, as you rightly observe. Here's what our research has turned up.

When traffic lights are operated primarily by sensors — video detection, magnetic loops embedded in the road’s pavement, infrared technology, and others — it’s fairly obvious why they change when they do. Sensors detect vehicle flow and the lights respond to cars rolling over, under, or past them. Green lights are longer when, for example, eastbound and westbound cars keep approaching an intersection. Red lights are shorter when only a few north-south cars pass through the green at the same intersection. We’ve all seen variations on this a million times.

But when lights are operated primarily by timers, it’s also fairly apparent — sometimes not in a good way.

Vegas traffic lights, more than 2,000 of them, are pre-programmed and controlled by a central computer at the Regional Transportation Commission’s Traffic Management Center. The programming changes according to several variables: time of day, day of week, and travel demand at intersections, among others. So if the timing is off for one reason or another, one direction gets a free pass, while drivers in the other direction sit, and sit, and sit, getting frustrated.

For example, in the wee hours (midnight to 5 a.m.), according to the RTC, traffic signals operate based on vehicle detection. But if the signals don’t get that message and remain timed for regular traffic hours, there you are at 3:30 in the morning, waiting alone at a red light, with no other cars to be seen, wondering if the light is “stuck,” feeling foolish and impatient, seriously considering running the damn thing, and — admit it — actually doing so on occasion.

Timing can also be affected by pedestrians activating the Walk signal (which generally provides an extended green light for vehicles traveling in the same direction) and the approach of emergency-response vehicles (equipped with special transmitters that communicate with traffic signals, allowing for green lights as first responders approach intersections).

In Las Vegas, the Strip is also a good example of timing that marches to a different beat. On the Boulevard, you crawl from one red light to the next at any time of day. It’s rare enough to hit a green light and a miracle to pass through two in a row. Lights on the Strip are timed to prioritize traffic entering and exiting the casinos (though at least one conspiracy lover of our acquaintance swears that entering the casinos gets much more green-light time than departing); they also take into account the herds and hordes of pedestrians continually crossing the Strip entrances and holding up traffic.

Then there are the signals at intersections with the Strip, such as at Flamingo Rd., that seem to be timed for a minute or more in all four directions, which includes left turns. So if you're driving east on Flamingo and reach the signal at the Strip just as it turns red, you have to wait for four minutes or longer for the lights to time back in your direction. We're sure many of you have other examples, but Flamingo and the Strip is one of the worst.

Bottom line: Generally speaking, when it comes to traffic lights, sensors, used to excellent effect in Reno, for example, are less crazy-making than timers and Las Vegas signals are for the most part timed.

 

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  • David Sep-15-2022
    All kinds of things can be done
    1. One-way streets
    2. Allowing left turns after yield
    3. Reversible lanes to give priority to primary traffic flow during rush hours
    4. Disallowing left turns during certain hours of the day
    5. Disallowing pedestrian crossing during certain hours of the day
    6. Eliminating four-way stop signs by designating a primary flow and letting other directions yield
    
    I can list others but I’ve made my point. Putting up traffic lights is a lazy “solution” requiring zero thought or creativity. 

  • Pat Higgins Sep-15-2022
    Big Trx
    When we are in Vegas with a rent car(which with the pandemic we haven’t done in a long time) we avoid driving the strip sonwe can avoid the worst traffic.  It works for us.  

  • AZmaddog Sep-15-2022
    Main Street Station
    Turning out of the Main Street Station surface parking lot was always hazardous.   Cars on Stewart going west would speed by trying to make the light on Main Street, and you always had to look out for cars turning off of 1st Street.  I petitioned the city to put a 4-way stop sign at the corner of 1st and Stewart.   The city did one better, they actually put a stop light at the corner.  This happened last year.

  • Scott Waller Sep-15-2022
    Good Red Lights
    Thanks.... this is very informative.  The only change I've noticed is in human behavior. I used to be horrendously impatient at red lights. Now, surprisingly, I often enjoy the long light because I can catch up on text messages!
    
    Damn, nothing but green.  When will I have a chance to read?

  • Roy Furukawa Sep-15-2022
    Sensors
    Here in SoCal we sometimes have two under street sensors for left turns where if the furthest sensor from the signal is covered by a car, a left turn only signal will light on the next cycle to minimize a backup in the left turn lane. The worst thing is there are many places in SoCal where this would be welcome and don't have this system.