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Question of the Day - 11 May 2018

Q:

I saw this article mentioning that triple zero roulette was now on the Strip. Is it real and will it replace current roulette tables throughout the Strip?

A:

Yes, triple-zero roulette is most certainly real and has been for a year and a half. And it's already begun replacing traditional double-zero roulette wheels on the Strip.

The Venetian introduced it in a “new game” called Sands Roulette in October 2016. The only difference from traditional roulette was the third green zero, which raises the casino advantage from 5.26% to 7.69%.

The Venetian in essence snuck in the third zero by adding the green square on the layout with an “S” for Sands. They introduced one table, giving it a $10 minimum, compared to the $15 minimum for double-zero. A lot like 6-5 blackjack on lower-limit or single- and double-deck games, it seemed to be the cost of the lower table minimum — bets for $5 less, though a 2.43% worse house advantage.

It was still the only triple-zero roulette game in Vegas, and perhaps the world, six months later. At that time, roughly a year ago, the minimum bet had gone up to $15 and there was a double-zero game with the same $15 minimum right next to it. When we were there, the Sands (triple-zero) game had three players and the standard game had two.

Making single $15 bets at a pace of 30 rounds per hour, a player is up against an hourly expected loss of $34.62, almost $11 more than playing a standard wheel. 

In the April 2018 LVA, we reported that two new triple-zero wheels had been spotted on the Strip, one at Planet Hollywood, the other at New York-New York. This means, as we wrote, “... that both Caesars Entertainment and MGM Resorts have joined in the roulette gouge that previously had been the sole province of the Venetian.”

As for the Venetian, the last time we checked, two triple-zeroes were in action and no double zeroes — the first time we’d been there without both being offered. Why should they offer double-zero? Both triple-zero tables were busy.

Our comment in the Advisor, “When players are that oblivious, you can’t fault the casino for offering the ripoff variation.”

Our friends at VitalVegas.com, however, had the last word on the subject. “The Venetian seems to be saying, let’s continue to do this until we see what the pain point is.”

 

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  • Gramps May-11-2018
    3 zero
    A fool and his money are soon parted.

  • David May-11-2018
    Las Vegas is imploding
    Don't tell me about visitor counts. Las Vegas is imploding as gambling continues to be deprecated. Slots are too tight, video poker pay schedules are bad, blackjack rules are twisted beyond recognition, roulette is under attack, etc.

  • kinosh May-11-2018
    Adding a 4th zero
    Makes the vig an even 10%, which is still better than betting any craps (11.1%), Hard 4/10 (11.1%), and the Horn bet (12.5%) in craps that people do ALL THE TIME!

  • Dave May-11-2018
    Alternatives
    They should have instead considered a side bet such as Poker For Roulette. 
    
    http://www.poker-for-roulette.com
    
    Make a bet that the next 3 spins will produce an outcome that has a pair, straight or three of a kind. 
    
    And the cool part is that 0 and 00 are WILD!
    

  • [email protected] May-11-2018
    Thanks for running my question!
    So I wonder when Crapless Craps will invade The Strip?

  • Ray May-11-2018
    can be made better
    If they were to improve the payoffs, (like 36-1 instead of 35-1) the bets on single numbers could have a lower edge even though multiple number bets would have a higher edge. However, if they get people to play with lower payoffs, they won't bother changing.

  • [email protected] May-11-2018
    Keep it up Vegas
    Keep it up Vegas, parking fee's  ,  resort fee's , now 
    triple zero roulette.