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Question of the Day - 13 January 2022

Q:

What happens to unused comps? Recently our party of four had dinner at a casino. A host sent a $400 comp to the restaurant for us, but our bill came to a little over $300. Does the remainder go back to the players account, or is it use it or lose it? Could we have put the remainder toward the tip?

A:

[Editor's Note: Natch, we handed this one off to Jean Scott, the Queen of Comps herself, who recently celebrated her 83rd birthday. It allows this editor to tell his favorite Jean Scott comp story. Jean, Brad, and the editor went to try dinner at the Bacchanal Buffet at Caesars when it reopened after the last major renovation around 10 years ago. At the time, dinner cost $49.99. Jean handed the paper comp for $150 to the cashier. After the transaction for $149.97, she turned to the editor and said, "Damn! I hate to waste three cents on a comp." Take it, Jean.] 

My frugal nature never liked to waste comps; I treated them like cash, trying to get the best value out of them and maximize them to the fullest.  So down through the years, I faced these questions many times. And as always with casino matters, the answer requires a lot of “depends.”  

The easiest way to use comps to pay for a meal is by redeeming players club points at the POS system (point of sale). Your bill comes to $212? The cashier takes your club card when you're ready to settle up and extracts exactly $212 worth of points from your account. No waste, no problem.   

However, sometimes you have to get a paper comp from the club. You’d like to stop by the desk and get the comp before you go to the restaurant, but you don’t know how much you'll be eating. Now, if this club system provides for your unused points to be returned to your account, you don’t have a problem: just ask for a much larger amount than you know you will need and the remainder won't be wasted.  

But in my experience, especially back when the players club systems were simpler, there was no return of points to an account. I can’t remember how many times, after being brought the bill to the table at the end of the meal, I left Brad there as a “hostage,” lingering over coffee, while I walked, often long distances, to the players club desk and stood in a long line to get a comp for the exact amount we owed.

Nowadays, the complex players club systems and handy kiosks have made these procedures more player-friendly. However, the problem remains when, like in this question, the comp comes through a host.

 “We’d like to take two friends to dinner at the coffee shop tonight.”  

Many times, our host asked, “How much do you need?”  

And now the question is tossed right back into your lap. I don’t have as much varied casino experience now as when we lived in Vegas, but it seems that it was usually a use-it-or-lose-it situation. In fact, I've had servers suggest we order some to-go items. “You might as well, since the unused balance from the comp is going to disappear anyway.”

Of course, frugal diners would look at the expected tip amount and think how nice it would be to use the comp balance to pay it.

But experienced casino diners, even the most frugal of us, know that this is usually a futile hope. In probably 99.9% of situations, comps can’t be used to cover tips.

Perhaps, when added amounts on the bill might be considered similar to tips, a comp might cover them. So with vague labels like “service charge,” you might not be out of line to ask if these could be covered by the comp. Sometimes my long-time refrain, “Just ask!” still works miracles.
 

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  • David Jan-13-2022
    MGM
    MGM requires getting the comp at the MLife desk, but returns the unused comp to the player account after the comp is used.  At least, that's what the player's club told me a couple of weeks ago.

  • jay Jan-13-2022
    Power of the Pen
    I remember being comped at Harrahs by the floor manager, the comp read four for dinner and drinks. There was no limit. We constrained ourselves as we always left 20% of what the presumable bill would be, and 20% on a $480 bottle of wine was still more than what I would pay for most dinners for four people most of the time.... that was 35+ years ago. 

  • Jerry Patey Jan-13-2022
    Comps
    What comps?  In general you lose them. That now is just an assumption you get them. I get offer from Sam’s in tunica but not a single offer from Vegas. Does that tell you ?  They do not value out people as customers. Supposedly everything thing is great. I am sure hospitals were not only ones who got billions in stimulus money. 100 bil they say was stolen. Who knows? Economy is on edge. Will the casinos get the next bailout?? 

  • Vickar Jan-13-2022
    MGM
    MGM requires you to convert your points to express comps (dollars) which can now be used for purchases. Recently, I converted 10,000 points for $100 and spent $94.75.  The unspent $5.25 remains as express comps balance.  It does not go back into your points balance.  

  • Kevin Lewis Jan-13-2022
    May your comps live again
    I've always been told that if I got a voucher from the slot club or a host, any unused comps would be returned to my players' club account.
    
    An exception has been if there's a do X get Y promotion; usually, that's use it all or lose it. Examples are a play $100 get a $20 food comp promo or Bellagio's famous "dive naked into the fountain and get $50" promo.

  • pfblas Jan-13-2022
    Unused comps
    Caesars Rewards Diamond members get an annual $100 celebration dinner comp. It's separate from regular reward points. Use it or lose it.
    
    I used it to pay for the Bacchanal buffet which is $74.99 and also bought 2 drink tickets at $12 a piece at the entrance. Each ticket is good for a glass of wine or 2 bottles of beer. Total was $98.99 so I only lost $1.01.
    

  • Ray Jan-13-2022
    Comps? or buy with points?
    I was always under the impression that using your points for food was, in effect, buying the meal(s) with the points you earned, and a comp was when the house (because of your play) bought you a meal, therefore the "comp" never touched your points. 

  • Susan Johnson Jan-13-2022
    frugal too
    I check the menu online and figure out what I need for a comp before I ask my host.  

  • Roy Furukawa Jan-13-2022
    MGM Hosted Players
    If you have a host at an MGM property, you charge everything to your room and the host subtracts any comp deal given, will apply any comp points and then usually covers whatever remains as long as your play warrants it which isn’t too difficult unless you were living the large life while playing like a pauper.