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Question of the Day - 16 November 2017

Q:

Based on your answer about blackjack movies, a few of us gamblers watched "21" and "The Last Casino," which were both based on the book "Bringing Down the House." Afterwards, we all agreed on how unrealistic gambling movies and TV are in general. Why do you think gambling is so misrepresented on the big and small screens?

A:

[Note: We handed this one off to LVA's long-time editor Deke Castleman, whom we can always count on to come up with strong opinions on subjects that interest him. We don't always agree with him, but his take is usually at least entertaining (more so in prose than in person, though don't tell him we said so).]

The gambling movies tend to fall into three categories: soap operas that use casinos as a backdrop, like Indecent Proposal, Havana, Leaving Las Vegas, and Showgirls; the Great Vegas Heist, like Ocean’s 11, Ocean’s 12, The Good Thief, even a movie like The Sting; and compulsive gamblers like Let It Ride, James Caan’s The Gambler, and California Split.

There are also mob movies, like Casino and Bugsy.

The movies that are more about Vegas itself and less about gambling tend to be either fluff or farce, like Viva Las Vegas, Vegas Vacation, and Honeymoon in Vegas. Once in a while, a harder-hitting one, like Leaving Las Vegas, comes along. We'll return to movies in a bit. 

As for television, there’s always been a market for a TV series on Las Vegas: “Vegas” with Robert Urich, “CSI: Las Vegas,” “Doctor Vegas" with Rob Lowe, and Dennis Quaid’s “Vegas.” Doctor Vegas" barely made it through one season; "Vegas" completed one season, but didn't return for a second.

NBC’s “Las Vegas” with James Caan was episodic ensemble TV and very popular -- 106 episodes over five seasons. There was only one problem with it. It was bogus. It was all wrong. It was “The Young and the Restless” — cotton-candy, sickly sweet, dumbed-down, superficial, happy-face, brightly lit bullshit.

Now, to do it right, you'd have to merge NBC’s “Las Vegas” with, for example, “The Sopranos” or “Homicide” or "The Wire,” etc.

But that probably won't happen, because there’s only one way for Hollywood to do a deep, authentic, theme-driven, episodic TV series centered on the casino business and its people — and that’s to let Vegas do it.

It has to be inside and only Vegas really knows Vegas. I’ve seen it for nearly three decades. I went through it myself. A lot of out-of-town writers come to Vegas for a weekend or a week or two weeks or even three months, six months max, and think they’ve got the whole place all figured out. And then they write their article or book or movie or TV show and the insiders take a look and recognize another wannabe celebrating his or her newfound knowledge about the place.

It just doesn’t work that way. This town’s been doing what it does for 85 years. It’s taken me half my lifetime to understand it, if I even do. And I’m nowhere near as inside as it gets.

To do Vegas right, to really capture this scene, a show has to be deep. There are so many undercurrents in this town, it’s mind-boggling.

Take a typical blackjack table. Everyone’s playing a different game. One guy’s a comp wizard, trying to slow things down so he can get more credit for time-on-table. Another is a card counter who’s trying to move his bets up and down without getting caught. A third is a compulsive gambler who doesn’t care if he wins or loses, so long as he can be in the action. A fourth is a first-timer who’s just trying not to make a fool of himself. A fifth thinks he’s James Bond and is just trying to look real cool for his girlfriend, who’s hanging over him. And, of course, the dealer has his own thing going on, and the floorman, and the pit boss, and the host, and surveillance …

So the show has to be complex. Complexity is key. You need a ton of characters, all tightly woven into intricate relationships. The characters must arc in every direction and intersect all over the place. Lots of subtlety, slow-developing scenarios, six degrees of separation. You have to plumb the depths of these characters, hidden meanings all over the place. Ideally, the audience can watch each episode five or six times and always see something new. I understand it’s good for DVD sales.

The show has to be edgy, gritty, dark. These casinos don’t have a drop of natural light. And this town happens at night. Dark and dim restaurants. Smoky bars. Strip joints. Limos. Also, the Vegas themes are basic, elemental: the primal appetites. Most of them aren’t too pretty in the light of day. The whole thing needs a sort of subterranean feel.

And it has to be theme-driven. It has to tackle the tough issues. Gambling. Sex, which includes prostitution. Alcohol and drugs, addiction across the board. Money mania and greed. The unforgiving desert. The wild wild west.

You'd need 12 episodes in the debut season, 12 hours of solid TV, just to introduce it all. It's practically impossible to do in a 90-minute feature movie. That's why, to answer your question, movies about Vegas and gambling barely scratch the surface.

Don't hold your breath for an authentic Las Vegas movie. Or, for that matter, a good TV series, though that's the best bet for getting it right.

End of sermon.

 

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  • Jackie Nov-16-2017
    WOW, Deke, my man!
    I haven't spent half my life in Vegas but you are the first ever that has had even a slight clue as to what goes on besides me.  You should write a book, that is, if the "Power People" will even let it happen. You know they don't want the real Vegas "exposed". However, you are in the right place to get a book published but then would LVA continue to exist after the book hit the market?
    
    Anyway, about the movie upon which this QOD is about I have to say that the people who brought about the question didn't pay much attention to the movie.  For one: Vegas was only mentioned at the end as a destination for one of the characters to go to as if the "Team" was unknown in Vegas.
    
    The majority of the action took place on the East coast and Canada.  
    
    The "High Stakes" room was a total farce, funny, but a farce. But that's Hollywood for you,---OOPS, wasn't made in Hollywood, it was made in Canada, guess they just couldn't resist a jab at the US.

  • Deke Castleman Nov-16-2017
    This in via email
    Always enjoy Deke’s take on things.  Just wanted to make a comment on his comments.  Knowing Vegas is not a result of living or working there.  I have subscribed to LVA almost from the beginning and visited several times a year.  I have always been amazed that I always knew more about Vegas (from reading LVA) than any dealer, waitress, etc I ever talked in Vegas.
    

  • Dave in Seattle. Nov-16-2017
    Gritty: Hard 8.
    Prostitution and murder and a little gambling,with a strange take on the comp system.

  • Mark Bashore Nov-16-2017
    i agree
    You said it exactly right. HBO or Netflix could probably do it justice. "The Cooler" had a lot of those elements that made it more realistic.

  • Ray Nov-16-2017
    A little overboard?
    Deke's comments could apply to a movie or TV series about ANY city. But entertainment media isn't designed to paint an entire complex picture of the city. The key is to portray the topics you want realistically (with the ability for a little entertainment license). You don't need to include every type of blackjack player, you don't need to touch on every subject in the city, you just need to be entertaining and try to not stray from reality too far. But that's the way it is with ALL TV and movies unless they claim to be documentaries. You don't need mobsters if it's not part of the story. You don't need hookers for the same reason.  

  • O2bnVegas Nov-17-2017
    100% realism, no sale.
    Why gambling is so "unrealistic" and "misrepresented" on TV/Movies?  It is, but so were all the Titanic movies, Lethal Weapons, MASH, war movies, etc.  As for the "Casino", "Oceans Eleven", "Vegas Vacation", even "Honeymoon In Vegas", they all have a dash of something that makes me go "yeah, I get that, seen it, was close to it, felt like that", etc.  We used to go to the horse track often, and "Let It Ride" is THE funniest, all those 'strategies' Richard Dreyfus (and all the characters) used to pick a horse in each race (much realism there).  Not to mention the very rare day when every bet comes in, and the many "I got the horse right here" days when that horse wasn't there at all.  I applaud the movie makers who get the actors' expressions just right, my exact feelings when my horse fell back, when my 20 is beaten by the dealer's 21. When Margaret Houlihan loses her cool at the MASH staff I feel her pain (but I couldn't act it out or I'd be fired).  Great job, Deke, on your analysis.