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Question of the Day - 18 March 2019

Q:

It seems the wait time for traffic lights to change at major intersections in Las Vegas is a lot longer than most other major cities. Why is that?

A:

We get this question fairly frequently. We wonder about it ourselves often, sitting seemingly forever at red lights where there’s no cross traffic or approaching green lights from blocks away that don’t change before we breeze right through. So we finally determined to track down the way traffic lights in Las Vegas work — or don’t, as the case may be.

When traffic lights are operated primarily by sensors — video detection, magnetic loops embedded in the road’s pavement, infrared technology, and others — it’s fairly obvious why they change when they do. Sensors detect vehicle flow and the lights respond to cars rolling over, under, or past them. Green lights are longer when, for example, eastbound and westbound cars keep approaching an intersection. Red lights are shorter when only a few north-south cars pass through the green at the same intersection. We’ve all seen variations on this a million times.

But when lights are operated primarily by timers, it’s also fairly apparent — sometimes not in a good way.

Vegas traffic lights, nearly 2,000 of them, are pre-programmed and controlled by a central computer at the Regional Transportation Commission’s Traffic Management Center. The programming changes according to several variables: time of day, day of week, and travel demand at intersections, among others. So if the timing is off for one reason or another, one direction gets a free pass, while drivers in the other direction sit, and sit, and sit, getting frustrated.

For example, in the wee hours (midnight to 5 a.m.), according to the RTC, traffic signals operate based on vehicle detection. But if the signals don’t get that message and remain timed for regular traffic hours, there you are at 3:30 in the morning, waiting alone at a red light, with no other cars to be seen, wondering if the light is “stuck,” feeling foolish and impatient, seriously considering running the damn thing, and — admit it — actually doing so on occasion.

Timing can also be affected by pedestrians activating the Walk signal (which generally provides an extended green light for vehicles traveling in the same direction) and the approach of emergency-response vehicles (equipped with special transmitters that communicate with traffic signals, allowing for green lights as first responders approach intersections).

In Las Vegas, the Strip is also a good example of timing that marches to a different beat. On the Boulevard, you crawl from one red light to the next at any time of day. It’s rare enough to hit a green light and a miracle to pass through two in a row. Lights on the Strip are timed to prioritize traffic entering and exiting the casinos (though at least one conspiracy lover of our acquaintance swears that entering the casinos gets much more green-light time than leaving); they also take into account the herds and hordes of pedestrians continually crossing the Strip entrances and holding up traffic.

Another QoD correspondent with advance access to this question notes that the signals at the intersection of the Strip and Flamingo Rd., for example, seem to be timed for a minute or more in all four directions, which includes left turns. So if you're driving east on Flamingo and reach the signal at the Strip just as it turns red, you have to wait for four minutes or longer for the lights to time back in your direction. We're sure many of you have other examples, but Flamingo and Strip is one of the worst.

Bottom line: Generally speaking, when it comes to traffic lights, sensors are less crazy-making than timers and Las Vegas signals are for the most part timed.

 

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  • Texas Transplant Mar-18-2019
    Maybe the longer wait times accounts for a lot of drivers running red lights.
    On my last several trips to Las Vegas I rented a car I couldn't help but notice not only the long lights but the LARGE amount of drivers running yellow/red lights.  I would be about stopped for just-turned red light, only to have some moron in the next lane scream past me, through the red light.
    
    The point is, that if you know that you are going to have to wait up to 4 minutes at a red light some people might be more likely to  hit the accelerator on yellow lights, which turn to red before they get to the intersection.
    
    In Texas, which has red light cameras, there was an increase in rear end accidents as drivers hit the brakes for a yellow light so the wouldn't get a ticket, only to be rammed from behind.
    
    An interesting QoD would be if there has been an increase accidents or tickets given because of drivers running red lights.   

  • Mark Elslager Mar-18-2019
    Cameras
    The State House of Reps are suppose to vote on a bill to legalize Red Light cameras.  This may be a good thing to keep tabs on.  It will be a rental car company nightmare.  Not to mention that they won't get the notice until long after you have returned your vehicle.  Then they tack on fees.  How do you fight that.

  • O2bnVegas Mar-18-2019
    not up to date?
    Las Vegans should pepper your RTC's TMC with cards and letters requesting they modernize to improve traffic flow, especially in the wee hours.
    
    Flashing red light intersections; drivers stop then proceed in order of arrival.  
    Flashing left turn red arrows; drivers stop then proceed when no oncoming traffic.  
    More vehicle sensor sensitive RGY cycling, when and where appropriate, versus timed.
    
    Of course, it seems like some vehicles don't come with turn signals these days.  What is with that?  Is it uncool to use turn signals?
    
    Generation gap: Old people--yellow light means slow down.  Young people--yellow light means speed up, especially when light is "a little pink around the edges."  But that's another story. 
    
    

  • Dennis Eudaley Mar-18-2019
    Flashing red stops
    Can you imagine the gas that is burned while cars around the country sit at red lites.  I've thought forever we should go to the flashing red system. If I remember correctly that's what they have in Vancouver, Canada.  I'm not talking 4-way stops.  Use the flashing red system for lesser used intersections.  Instead of normal red, get flashing red.  No traffic - continue after coming to stop.In heavy traffic areas, leave system as is.  Naysayers will say that will increase accidents.  That's what they said when turn right on red was introduced.  Not only gas savings, but maybe if you knew you weren't going to sit there for 3-dsys, the .running red would decrease 

  • alanbalmer Mar-18-2019
    Alan Balmer
    What's strange here is there is a signal in every possible direction for every traffic stop.  This means there are usually five different cycles to pass through for each stop.  If you think in probabilities, you have one chance in five of actually making a signal light.  The time crunch hits because of waiting for the left or right lanes from other streets to cycle through.  Since these side lights usually don't involve as many vehicles, blinking yellow lights should be used to allow more green time for the main north, south, east and west traffic.  Only at peak hours should the side lights be in effect.  Operate this pattern for roughly four to six hours daily and default back to blinking yellow lights for the remaining hours.  It's obvious that a well seasoned government official is running things the way they currently are.  In the government, time is expendable, it's just a commodity.  It well run operations, time is indispensable.