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Question of the Day - 30 October 2021

Q:

Why do people play the video versions of blackjack and craps? There’s no camaraderie and the odds are terrible.

A:

[Editor's Note: This answer is penned by our friend and gambling expert Arnold Snyder.]  

Many people prefer slot versions of casino table games because the machines are less stressful. You can always see when it’s your turn to make a betting or playing decision. No one is watching you make mistakes or complaining if you do something out of turn. Table games generally include socializing with the other players and sometimes the dealer or pit personnel. So people are attracted to slots is precisely because there’s no camaraderie.

Also, many people — probably most of the adults in this country — have little knowledge of “the odds.” I’ve always been of the opinion that probability and statistics should be taught in high school, perhaps right after algebra. Geometry and calculus are commonly taught in many high schools, but are rarely used by most people once they’re out in the world.

Statistics, on the other hand, virtually never taught in high school, are constantly referred to in mainstream media when discussing politics, business, economics, health, education, the military, and dozens of other topics that affect people’s lives. The media provide polls and surveys and refer to the sample sizes and degrees of error — and many people have no way of knowing how meaningful such data is.

Finally, the video versions of casino table games can often be played at much lower stakes. It’s hard to find blackjack tables these days that take bets under $10. Video blackjack can often be found on machines that take bets as low as 25¢ a hand. This, in fact, may be the biggest factor for most people who choose to play the machines.

But you do make a good point about the video versions of casino table games generally offering worse odds than the table-game versions. Again, most players don't realize that.

 

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  • VegasVic Oct-30-2021
    LOL
    Gotta love conspiracy nut and anti vaxxer Snyder talk about statistics and main stream media.  He still thinks the orange stain is going to be "reinstated" (seriously). 

  • That Don Guy Oct-30-2021
    Another reason people may play Video BJ
    With video blackjack, you don't have to put up with the people who claim things like, "You took the dealer's bust card!" (Note to these people: with a 3-deck or larger game, you hit a hard 16 when the dealer shows a 10.)

  • Bob Nelson Oct-30-2021
    Low stakes
    My wife isn’t a big gambler and she much prefers playing video blackjack for a quarter or dollar than sitting at a 5/10$ table.  Also no one to criticize your play or speed as mentioned.  You can sit and play for half an hour and have a drink and maybe win a little or lose $5.

  • alohafri Oct-30-2021
    Plus of Video
    The video versions are good for people trying to learn the game. My wife an I are definite novices. Years ago, we played at a $1 minimum table at the Sahara. An elderly lady sat down for a hand and immediately complained that my wife "took her card". My wife was excited because she hit 21. The old lady took up in a huff and the dealer, knowing we were novices, apologized for her. 

  • Kevin Lewis Oct-30-2021
    For the same reasons many prefer video sex
    1) no human interaction 2) lower cost 3) doesn't matter how skilled you are.

  • Rob Reid Oct-30-2021
    Teaching Statistics
    I agree with you on the importance of teaching statistics in high school. It isa life skill that everyone can use  in everyday life.  

  • Randall Ward Oct-30-2021
    video table games
    I gamble for fun and enjoy some interaction, so Let it Ride and 3 card poker are fun for me. I used to play BJ but too many aholes complaining if you "take the dealer card" etc.  

  • rokgpsman Oct-30-2021
    No drama please
    The "no stress" reason for playing machine bj and machine craps is exactly why some of my friends play low denomination slots. They know the odds of winning anything meaningful are pretty low, they just want to have some stressfree fun, sitting next to each other in a row of slots. They talk and have drinks, play the slots slowly. They've tried table games and didn't have fun due to the way other players acted. So there's something to be said about the hostility of playing at table games. Folks that aren't playing in a serious manner are happy on the machines, they aren't expecting to win big, although it would be nice. They're just glad they don't have to deal with the drama some players give at the tables.

  • VegasVic Oct-30-2021
    Social
    The social aspect is what makes craps fun. I'm fine with offering video as long as real table games aren't replaced.  But I think that's coming at some point.  

  • Ray Oct-30-2021
    terrible odds? Not always
    Hasn't any of you seen the BJ E-games that look like a real table and has 3 seats? These games can be played for 3-5 minimums depending on the casino and are just as good as the actual table games they have. And as a bonus, I get points on my players card, which never seems to happen when you are dependent on a pit boss to give you points. So, same odds, lower minimum, no know-it-alls to deal with AND players club points. What's not to like?

  • Kageyinprescott Oct-30-2021
    Odds are actually better
    I enjoy the crap machines that I have played. The best thing is when you get on a roll you don't have to wait forever while the dealer is paying everybody and then taking all the new bets and presses. The machine gives everyone a set time and then the game is back on. "When you're hot you're hot!"
    And I have found the machines pay 'correct' odds to the penny. Say you place a 9, which on a table pays 7 to 5. On the machine you actually get paid $7.48 (I don't remember the exact amount of cents) to your $5 bet. Let's see them try that at a table.
    Plus I have socialized a lot on the machine and also get the chance to teach newbies and have even picked up some pointers from old-timers.

  • gaattc2001 Oct-30-2021
    Don't underestimate the appeal of lower stakes...
    One of LVA's "Top Ten Values" is the Hooters/OYO $1 even-money Blackjack game.
    My cousin plays low-stakes six-to-five Blackjack, even after having it explained to him repeatedly. My significant other plays even-money video Blackjack ("How often am I going to get a Blackjack?"), and Video Poker with one coin in ("How often am I going to get a Royal?") And she's a Ph.D.
    And I myself have been known to play some pretty marginal low-stakes Video Poker while waiting, if I go out of the poker tournament first; but that was long ago. Nowadays, I would have the bankroll handy and play a better game for higher stakes and comp points.
    Cheers.

  • Matthew Oct-30-2021
    Odds seem same as low-limit live games
    The video bj machines I’ve seen recently pay the same as a low-limit live game. And video craps pays the same as live for pass and odds. 
    
    Many are now multiplayer, allowing some socializing. 
    
    And I agree, there tends to be less pressure/criticism from other players. 

  • rodfan Oct-30-2021
    Video BJ
    I almost always play a 25 cent video poker machine.  Sometimes, the machine I’m playing also offers Blackjack.  I play $1 per hand, actually saving a quarter per  hand from VP.  And much of the time, the $20 I put in  lasts longer!  

  • [email protected] Oct-30-2021
    Bubble craps
    This person has never played a crowded bubble craps machine just as much comradey and much lower stakes last time I was in Vegas it was 25 pass line 10place min not everyone has a bankroll for that 

  • rokgpsman Oct-30-2021
    Pluses of Machine blackjack/craps
    Other reasons to play machine blackjack and craps-
    1) no worry about a dealer cheating you
    2) no tipping the dealer, save your bankroll
    3) play the hand any way you want to
    4) faster play, no downtime while the dealer shuffles or resolves player disputes
    5) no sourpuss dealers to face you
    Also, if the blackjack machine pays 3:2 on blackjacks and has other player favorable rules it's often better than playing live table blackjack unless you're a card counter. The machine does "continuous shuffling", after every hand the cards just played are put back into the deck and shuffled, lightning fast. This means all the aces and face cards are in there all the time and can be dealt on every hand you get. For non-card counting players this results in a better chance for the player. A blackjack is dealt about every 20 hands, when playing bj on a machine that means it's just you and the dealer getting blackjacks. And you can slow down the play, check your bj strategy card for proper play.

  • Doc H Oct-30-2021
    first post vegasvic
    Still some are strangely obsessed to a most unhealthy degree with vaccines and politics and can't stay on topic to a most unhealthy degree, this time going after an author of a gambling topic?  
    
    Let's go vegasvic. 

  • Esposito11 Oct-30-2021
    Video Blackjack
    I enjoy bar top video blackjack.  I know the odds are bad as depending on the machine you can not always split, double down etc.. but you can generally pit $20 in, play low limits and drink up and earn comp points.

  • AL Oct-30-2021
    confirming the facts
    VIDEO BLACKJACK (1-person machines):
    In Las Vegas, I don't know of any video BJ machines that pay 3:2 on blackjacks. (If anybody knows of a casino where 3:2 exists, please post to say where.) But even given that sad fact, video BJ has a couple things that appeal to me: (1) I can take as long as I want to think about whether to Hit or Stand after you have 3 or more cards (Basic Strategy and the little printed cards only address your initial 2 cards). (2) My bankroll will not be wiped out, because there are no wild swings like you see in video poker. Even if the EV of the BJ machine is only 95%, if I'm just playing through FreePlay, I'd like to have the best chance of collecting 95% of it instead of taking a chance on losing all of it. And if I'm going for a certain number of slot club points for the day but I don't want to risk losing a lot of money in getting there, then video BJ is safer. But beware: Many video BJ machines don't offer the usual doubling down and splitting.

  • AL Oct-30-2021
    confirming facts #2
    MACHINE CRAPS:
    There are a lot of drawbacks with playing the normal "live action" craps (with casino employees and other players) that we don't have to deal with when we play the machine version. Other players can be a real bother: blowing cigarette smoke into your face, leaning/bumping into you, etc. I once was the victim of a drunk lady pushing me away from my place next to the stickman (and from my chips in the tray) and almost knocking me down to the ground. Another thing that once happened is that I told one of the dealers that I wanted to cash out (to get a few big-denom chips in exchange for my many small-denom chips), and I handed him $250' worth. He did not return any chips to me! He just ignored me and looked around the table like they usually do during play. After a couple of minutes of this, I had to speak up loudly and make a scene and demand my money. Sheesh! None of this ridiculous crap (pun intended) can happen when you're playing alone on a machine.

  • rokgpsman Oct-30-2021
    Video blackjack
    @Al
    I've read and heard on different blogs and podcasts that there are a few video blackjack machines in off-Strip casinos that pay 3:2 for a blackjack. As far as I know all the Strip places have their video blackjack machines set to pay 6:5 or even money (1:1). This is for machines on the main casino floor, in High Limit slot areas where the denomination is high enough you might find 3:2 video blackjack machines in any casino. Machine inventory can change often, what's there today might not be tomorrow. If you go downtown check the El Cortez, they sometimes give players a fairer chance than other places.

  • Bob Nelson Oct-31-2021
    Al - basic strategy
    Basic strategy certainly does cover more than just the first two cards.  You just ignore the splitting and double down sections of the card/chart because those are no longer allowed.  If you had a hard 7, took a hit and drew an 8 now you just treat it like any other hard 15.  The same as getting a 7,8 or a 10,5 for the first two cards, etc.

  • CruisingFun Nov-01-2021
    It's All About the Points
    I mlm mostly gamble on cruises which automatically have pretty bad house edge games. Blackjack tables are 6:5 unless you play $25 minimum. I play to get free cruises and FreeFreePlay on future cruises. The problem is that they do not value table play well.  On my current cruise I spent about four hours playing $15 to $80 hands and got 238 points.  I then played two hours playing video blackjack at $4 to $20 hands and got over 8000 points. The only rule difference was video BJ played 1:1 instead of 6:5 which isn't that much of a difference.