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Question of the Day - 09 July 2022

Q:

With increasing water shortages, which may also lead to reduced power capability, when do you think Las Vegas will no longer be viable? Especially considering the amount of both used along the Strip.

A:

Sin City has spent decades living like there’s no tomorrow, but tomorrow has finally arrived.

As of June 25, the water level in Lake Mead was 1,044 feet. Should it drop to 950 feet, it’s game over. The turbines within Hoover Dam will no longer spin, so power cuts will be the rule. Las Vegas will also lose access to 90% of its water supply.

At 895 feet, Lake Mead becomes a “dead pool,” unable to feed the Colorado River. It will still (just barely) be able to supply Las Vegas, Boulder City, and Henderson with drinking water, but vegetation that requires watering will surely go by the wayside. According to AccuWeather.com, “While it may take years to reach this status, the reservoir provides water to millions of people across Nevada, Arizona, California, and parts of Mexico, many of whom have already seen cuts in supply due to efforts to reserve water.”

And that will continue. As Southern Nevada Water Authority spokesman Bronson Mack explains, “We expect that there will be further reductions to Colorado River water supplies from Lake Mead. In August, the Bureau of Reclamation will make that determination, but we have already prescribed reductions of our water allocation from 300,000 acre-feet to a current maximum of 270,000 acre-feet.”

Mack continues, “Last year, Southern Nevada consumed 242,000 acre-feet — this is the value of water conservation. That said, the Bureau of Reclamation recently announced that another two to four million acre-feet will need to be cut next year to protect water levels in Lake Powell and Lake Mead. The seven states that share the Colorado River are working to negotiate those reductions. So more reductions are coming. Nevada has water stored in our local aquifer, and in Arizona and California, for our future use. We have the equivalent of eight years of water stored.”

Current projections show Lake Mead at 1,015 feet in September 2023. In little more than a year, the lake level is expected to drop another 30 feet. And that leaves just 65 feet until the turbines shut down. (For a graphic view of how quickly the lake level has dropped in the past couple of decades, we recommend the YouTube video posted at the bottom of the page.)

And for once, we can’t blame the casinos. Bronson Mack insists that the resorts are the least of the problem, representing a mere 5% of water use, while residential usage is 60%. Casinos have also given themselves some wiggle room by developing solar-power-generation capacity.

To allay alarmists, Mack says, “Southern Nevada has invested $1.3 billion engineering the deep-water intake and low-lake-level pumping station at Lake Mead, which ensures that we can access water supplies regardless of lake elevation. Even if Lake Mead falls to the dead-pool level, where no water can pass through Hoover Dam, we will still have access to water supplies.”

And of course, a good year of snowfall/snowpack in the Colorado River watershed will delay the pain somewhat and two or three good years will definitely improve the situation.

Recycling doesn’t hurt, either. “Keep in mind that Southern Nevada reclaims and returns all indoor water use back to Lake Mead. For every gallon returned, we can take another gallon out of the lake and bring it through the drinking-water treatment process,” Mack concludes.

Being eternal optimists, we’re loathe to speculate, or even discuss, the end of the “viability” of Las Vegas, by dint of a water crisis or any other. If you really want a peek at what that might look like, you can check the QoD on Vegas apocalypse movies we ran last October. 

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  • Straski Jul-09-2022
    2011 idea
    The Southwest is struggling with drought. The Midwest is soaking under floodwaters. And there may be one solution to both problems: Shift the floodwaters of the Mississippi 1,000 miles west to the Navajo River, a tributary of the Colorado River.
    
    The engineering firm Black & Veatch has developed a plan that would siphon off 1,000 cubic feet of water per second from the Mississippi and move it across the Great Plains and over the Rockies to southwestern Colorado. The concept calls for transferring that gush of water (twice as much as Nevada’s yearly allotment from the Colorado River) through 775 miles of pipe, 110 miles of canals, 85 miles of tunnels, and seven pumping stations that would lift the water as high as 7,500 feet. Basin transfer projects are common in the western United States, but “there’s nothing in operation anywhere in the world on this scale,” says engineer Bruce Moore of the Southern Nevada Water Authority, which has explored the idea. Price tag estimated $11 billion

  • Kevin Lewis Jul-09-2022
    Solutions
    1. Switch from water to beer. Directly from the tap.
    2. Require every tourist who arrives in Vegas to bring a 50-gallon jug of water.
    3. Golf courses--"brown is the new green."
    4. Fill all swimming pools with jello.
    5. Put a gigantic tarp over Lake Mead to slow evaporation.
    6. Hire local Indian tribes to perform rain dances at the FSE.
    7. Capture and recycle all the tears from 6:5 blackjack players.
    8. Car washes will be a sad-looking guy with a bucket and a sponge.
    9. Shower only once a week. Other days, use Febreze.
    10. Replace the Bellagio fountains with thousands of those inflatable tube men you see at used car lots.
    

  • rokgpsman Jul-09-2022
    Water is a precious commodity 
    With 150,000 hotel rooms in Las Vegas, often at high occupancy rates, that's a lot of water going down the drain for showers, sinks and toilet. Looks like an opportunity for a new "water usage fee" the hotels can start charging. Add in all the public bathrooms at casinos, bars, restaurants, airport, stores, etc and it's an immense amount of water usage just for these bathrooms. Hotel plumbing should run shower and sink drains into tanks that screen and then supply that water to the building's toilets.
    .
    Kudos to those that take showers with someone else!
    

  • Lea Wozniak Jul-09-2022
    Lea
    How about a new construction moratorium on apartments/condos. Lot of showers and lots of flushes. not to mention landscape watering.

  • O2bnVegas Jul-09-2022
    Kevin's list
    While you have made frequent humorous posts, this beats them all!
    
    Especially #10. What a visual!
    
    Candy

  • Jetpilotrick Jul-09-2022
    Building
    Excellent idea on the moratorium for building.  But, the city of Las Vegas and the rest of the valley keeps authorizing new homes, apartments, businesses and the like.  They need to protect the residents that already live here.  Quit authorizing new construction and help keep Las Vegas a viable place to live for the current residents! 

  • robert wolf Jul-09-2022
    rwolf
    This is kind-of mean but quit sending water to California. They could turn Pacific Ocean water (saltwater) into drinking water. It can be done.

  • Doc H Jul-09-2022
    what?
    You mean lewis didn't blame this on the big bad orange man like he did everything and anything in the past many years, post it over and over again on this forum, ad nauseum? Oh that's right, the more popular than ever(cough) demented old fool that lewis and many others thought was the answer, and still guessing they love him, will save us all on this matter, woo woo!

  • [email protected] Jul-09-2022
    Chill, Doc
    I don't come here for a political discussion - Kevin is a little "out there" but his postings are part os the personality of this site.

  • Annie Jul-09-2022
    @Doc H
    You present a false narrative. People who voted for Biden knew who they were buying. You need to read up on the concept of the lesser of two evils. That's why people voted for the old, faltering Biden. 
    
    As critical as we thought it was to get the madman out of the W.H. before the election, we learned after the election that we had actually substantially underestimated how great the threat Trump was to everything we hold dear as a democracy.

  • Doc H Jul-09-2022
    ardias04 and annie
    lewis for 4+ years used this forum big time for his political obsession's, so talk to him about it beyond your softball 'he's a little out there' comment on the matter, just 'part of the site'. As are my comments 'part of the site', ok for him, ok for me, right? :) 
    
    Annie and the river of denial. Obviously the nation DID NOT know what they were getting with mr magoo as he has majority negative ratings in every state except 2, VT n HI. People notice he has trouble forming simple sentences, shakes hands with people who aren't there, looks confused and lost often. Majority polling says he doesn't have the mental facilities to be where he is. Only 1 in 5(!) want him to run again. His national polling is LOWER than the "madman" ever was, saw that today. Do you know how many average people are hurting with gas prices alone thanks to this clowns energy policies? Not to mention inflation with food prices and everything else under his watch that is harming everyday people and including vegas?

  • David Miller Jul-09-2022
    Madman?
     Annie - I am curious- just what did President Trump do that, in your mind, makes him a madman? When I say "do" I mean what has been PROVEN that he did, other than his "mean tweets, which, by the way, were spot on .

  • Annie Jul-09-2022
    @Doc H
    You don't seem to grasp the concept of "lesser of two evils." I'll try again. Most people who voted for Biden (such as myself) knew he wasn't up to the job, but they thought Trump was worse, much much worse. That's what "lesser of two evils" means.
    
    Based on recent testimony under oath of Trump's own Attorney General, Defense Secretary, Chief of Staff  and other members of his cabinet and inner circle, it turns out that Trump was a great deal worse than even his most ardent detractors could have imagined.
    
    Both Democrats and Republicans historically blame a president of the opposite party for everything that goes wrong regardless of whether the president caused the problems or could have done anything to minimize them.
    
    Both Democrats and Republicans also invariably give a president of their own party credit for everything that goes well regardless of whether or not the credit is deserved. That's politics as usual.
    
    This will be my last comment on this. It'll just go around in circles.

  • Annie Jul-09-2022
    Back to the QoD
    Today's answer on Lake Mead was one of the best in memory. Well reserached, comprehensive, and extremely interesting.

  • David Miller Jul-09-2022
    Annie
     As usual, you can not name one thing, and because you can't you want to end the discussion you started. How liberal of you.

  • Doc H Jul-09-2022
    agree
    I hear you David. Most of these people who say "the lesser of 2 evils", he's such a bad person, can't name anything negative policy wise about said person they say they hate so much. People confuse those that do, accomplish, with 'oh, he's so mean, he can't be my bff, he bad!'. Though perhaps I could be very wrong as perhaps annie types love higher gas prices, badly botched pullouts overseas, love to hear just buy an electric car already and shut up, like judgement that inflation is just a temp thing it's transitory after reckless spending = inflation, our border mess, basic things like infant formula being scarce from their own actions, etc etc etc. As opposed to the "horrible" orange man who had record low gas prices for years, made us self sufficient in energy production, top notch economy, no wars for his entire term which the last 3 couldn't do as I recall, actually had good relations with NK where he was told was impossible. Yep, but let's talk about those mean tweets, goodness.

  • Doc H Jul-09-2022
    annie
    "Both Democrats and Republicans historically blame a president of the opposite party for everything that goes wrong regardless of whether the president caused the problems or could have done anything to minimize them."
    
    
    Like the guy in charge who campaigned hard to end oil production in the US? Watch his own words with Bernie Sanders in the debate if you think I'm exaggerating 'No Ability For The Oil industry To Continue To Drill, Period, Ends'. He also ended the keystone oil pipeline from canada. Suspends gas and oil leasing with an executive order. Of course that wouldn't have any impact on oil prices, smirk. And he demands gas stations lower prices blames then after his actions? Beyond pathetic.  
    
    Yes, let's talk about Lake Mead annie as it's a good topic indeed. Why isn't our esteemed leader doing something with our taxpayer dollars about it vs sending 10's of billion overseas in a war that's not our business? America 1st wrong? Borders overseas more important vs ours? Meanie?

  • David Miller Jul-09-2022
    Left the building
     Annie has left the building, looking for her "safe place' as she pays record high gas and food prices as she tries to find anything President Trump did to warrant her labeling him a "madman"

  • Jerry Patey Jul-09-2022
    Water
    You want to know what the problem is in Vegas and the planet? Go to GeoengineeringWatch.org on you tube or their website. As to Vegas you prob have 1year or so. Then no water and power from Lake Mead. They give lip service to a water line from Missouri River. Yea right. The are spraying millions of ton of aluminum nanoparticles barium Strotium griphene. It is mean to shut out so but it has destroyed ozone level and the ultraviolet light spectrum. The channel is called the bad news channels. Don’t post the passenger jet contrail BS. They are starting propaganda about the new program they may have to start. This one is what they are useing now for warfare purposes. You should follow prepare for shortages of food and water. Believe me the vp pay tables is not our problem. I warned about gov Covid 3-2020. You laughed. You will not this time. Read about HARRP facilities   They are solar atmosphere heaters. Time is nearing. You are warned. 

  • Lotel Jul-09-2022
    Ban Political  posts 
    please ban anyone that post political garbage. we come here to get away from  that sheet .   Never let them back 

  • Jackie Jul-09-2022
    Madman Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster The meaning of MADMAN is a man who is or acts as if in
    Hmmm,
    Fired the head of the CDC for warning him about the Pandemic.
    Murdered 500,000 Americans by telling them it's just a flu, not to worry, no need for a mask.
    Killed 10,000,000 jobs with insane restrictions.
    Placed the U.S. on house arrest for two months.
    Gave $Billions to each of his corporate buddies for stimulus but only $two thousand to each Qualifying American.
    Caught Covid himself but not cured, became a carrier and infected his staff.
    Guilty of all three sections of 18 U.S. Code Chapter 115 - TREASON, SEDITION, AND SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES.
    
    And he is not a MADMAN!
    
    But he is a PIED PIPER who led all the rats in town to their doom.

  • Jxs Jul-09-2022
    Dr. Jerry is back
    It’s been a while but it’s good to see that Dr. Jerry is back from surgery to clear everything up for us, and in such a concise way. The troubling thing is that has grammar has gone from 3rd grade to 1st grade level. 

  • David Miller Jul-09-2022
    Jackie
    Curious- how long have you been writing material for CNN? 

  • Doc H Jul-09-2022
    comedy hour
    jackie, your talents as a stand-up comedian are impressive. Or perhaps as David stated, you're a "news" reporter? It's hard for me to tell the difference these days honestly. But please, continue. 

  • Bud Ackley Jul-09-2022
    trump
    Jackie listed many of Trumps abominations but forgot the bookends. His first abomination was promoting the racist lie that Obama was born in Kenya. (15 years later he admitted Obama was born in the U.S.) He last atrocity and the greatest one by orders of magnitude was leading a coup against the United States for which he should (and maybe will) be jailed.
    

  • steve crouse Jul-12-2022
    People
    The problem with Lake Mead is that it is being sucked dry by too many people.
    In 1939 there were 8500 souls in the Las Vegas Valley. Today that figure stands at 2.84 million.
    Add to that at least 15% for uncounted illegal aliens.
    Cycles of drought are endemic to the DESERT Southwest.
    The solution?
    I like that Mississippi reroute plan and at $11B which in reality would turn out to be $22B with over-runs seems to be a bargain in today's trillion-dollar spending trends.BUT..........the current administration would probably give the contract to the Chinese Communist Party using Chinese workers because, you know, 10% for the BIG guy.

  • Doozey Jul-12-2022
    Describe Trump in one word
    Traitor.

  • steve crouse Jul-17-2022
    Democrats
    Democrats described in one term:
    Communists.

  • Jerry Patey Jul-20-2022
    D-day. 
    Annie get your gun. You obviously voted for Biden. Have you looked in mirror. Summer of 2023 or sooner depending on others and people like you. I told you about cirona( Chinese virus) March of 2020. You don’t even know when scambed at current rate yes summer 2023 without water and electricity you figure think out. We have been warned for only 15 years. Good luck. You will need it.