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Question of the Day - 07 August 2020

Q:
I’m coming out next month and playing the Wynn golf course. Any tips or hints for a bad amateur like myself? Also, as nice as the course looks and with its tremendous views and location, is it surprising to you guys that it has never hosted a PGA or headline charity events of any kind, at least not that I’m aware of?
 
Also, under the photograph you'll find the link to the results of the most recent poll on whether or not the casinos should close in the face of the upsurge of the pandemic.
 
A:

[Editor's Note: This Question of the Day might be the only time in more than 16 years that the person who submitted the question also answered it.

Long-time QoDer and sometime correspondent Mike Scudiero sent today's QoD question last month. We answered it directly ("Are you asking for golf tips? Keep your eye on the ball.") and after a little back and forth, we prevailed on Mike to send us a trip report when he got back. It was so good that we made today's QoD on the Wynn course out of it.

Mike is a resident of Ormond Beach, Florida. A visitor to Las Vegas since 2005, he's been an avid reader of the Advisor and occasional participant in Question of the Day posts since 2010. He works in politics and represents police officers for a living. He and his wife, Dixie, have four kids excited to join them in Las Vegas when they each turn 21. Mike's on the right in the photo. Here's his report.]

As a long-time Las Vegas fanatic who has traveled there 23 times since 2005, one thing I’d never done was try my hand at a round of golf. Earlier this year, I read that the Wynn Golf Course offered free loaner clubs with the green fee, so I looked into it a bit more. Suddenly, it was practical; I wouldn’t have to lug a set of clubs across the country on a flight.

Now, by no means am I a respected golfer in any way, shape, or form. But the whole idea of playing such a nice-looking course with views of the Strip seemed appealing, so I proceeded. At 41, married with four kids, and juggling two careers, I make the most of a vacation when I actually get a chance to take one.

On July 10, my cousin Anthony and I had the pleasure of playing the Wynn course. We were staying at the hotel, so we could make tee-time reservations up to 90 days in advance. It's best to take advantage of this perk; when I called around 30 days before (when non-guests can make reservations), there were limited options remaining for our date.

The green fee, as you might imagine for a five-star resort and with views second to none, isn’t cheap. The summer rate was $375 (it’s $550 in the winter); while still less than some of the country’s top courses, it’s far higher than average. The way we saw it, though, as fast as you can lose $375 at a crap table a few hundred yards in from the course, for a nice leisurely 3.5-hour round of golf in an immaculate setting with 5-star service and amenities as part of the round, it felt reasonable enough, and after finishing the day, I believe we were right. 

Among the amenities included in the green fee for each player: the clubs and tees, a cooler of ice with water bottles, another cooler of ice with sodas and sports drinks, locker-room access, driving-range balls, a personalized bag tag with the Wynn logo and your name engraved (a nice keepsake, so be sure and give them the proper spelling of each name in your group when you book the reservation!), and most significantly, a PGA-certified caddie.

Because of COVID, the caddie follows you and/or leads the way in a separate cart. Our guy, Jon, was a real treat to work with. He was knowledgeable about the course, helpful with club selection and shot angles, friendly to chat with, and made us feel like pros, even when we stunk! There’s a recommended gratuity of $50 per person for the caddie, but we each tipped $70, as we were only a twosome and Jon definitely exceeded expectations, raking sand traps after us, repairing divots, and cleaning the balls and club heads throughout the round. 

My biggest takeaway from the course itself was how hilly it was. Maybe it comes from being a Florida golfer where almost all the courses are flat, but I was surprised at the Wynn’s up-and-down layout.

Overall, it was challenging, but not impossible. It seemed to have just the right mix of trees, water, and bunkers, yet was safe enough even for someone with a natural slice like me. The sight lines were predictably spectacular. On most holes, it seemed you were hitting with one of two backdrops: either the Palazzo/Wynn/Encore direction or the Westgate/STRAT direction. With all the hustle and bustle of the Strip, it was fun to realize what we were doing just off it and had to remind ourselves we were playing golf in such a unique setting. 

I asked Jon the caddie a question I have wondered about for years: Why, with its amazing landscape, backdrop, and features, hasn’t the Wynn course been used for a professional, celebrity, or charity event? He pointed out two things.

First is the lack of a true driving range. The practice area here, because of space considerations, features a high catch net about 30 feet from the practice tees. He noted that PGA golfers would require a full-sized driving range for warm-ups.

Second, it would mean shuttering the course for two-three weeks a year to accommodate such a tournament event and that might not be bottom-line-friendly.

We did agree that it might be the perfect option for a fan-less, primetime-TV event like we’ve seen Tiger Woods and Phil Mickelson engage in a couple of times in the past year, so who knows? 

All in all, while I went in viewing it as a one-off situation to check an item off a bucket list, I would do it again in a second, and probably will plan to play it on future trips. For anyone so inclined, get out there early in these summer months to beat the heat and be sure to take photos with the scenic views to remember it by.

 

And here's your link to the results of the most recent poll on whether or not the casinos should close in the face of the upsurge of the pandemic. We believe you'll find the results (and analysis) worth a few extra minutes of your time.

 

 

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  • Sharon Aug-07-2020
    Excellent!!
     This was one of the most interesting Q&A‘s I’ve ever read on your site. I have always wondered what perks you get on high-end courses....interesting!  I played the TPC River Highlands in Cromwell, CT when the PGA called the event the GHO - Greater Hartford Open in approximately 1993 for $125.00 which was a lot of money then, but had NO perks! Great read

  • O2bnVegas Aug-07-2020
    Score?
    Did Mike say what his score was?  LOL.  Just kidding.  Great report, so interesting.  We usually request a room overlooking the golf course when we stay at Wynn, though have rarely seen anyone playing.

  • AyeCarambaPoker Aug-07-2020
    Nice review
    What are they like with hurrying players along for supposed slow play? I’ve played at some of the clubs in Dubai which charge similar amounts and there are on course monitors hurrying groups along which doesn’t really feel nice when you’re not playing particularly slowly and there’s actually no one behind you that you’re holding up! 

  • [email protected] Aug-07-2020
    Great QOD
    Nicely written. Nice photo with a great view,especially that tall golden building.
    Shadow Creek next?

  • David Aug-07-2020
    Pretty cool!
    Well written QOD answer.  So, I have 2 questions because now I see this as doable. One, do they have extra long clubs as a complementary option?  Two, I usually stay at the Palazzo.  Any idea if others have had the experience of other concierge desks getting better tee times than the 30 day "limited options"?  

  • Kenneth Aug-07-2020
    My round of golf at Wynn
    We were in Vegas August 2-5 this week and I played the Wynn Tuesday August 4 and I was thoroughly impressed!! While my wife was losing lots of $$$, I enjoyed 3 hours of playing golf right on the Strip with awesome views of the course and the Strip!! The course was in excellent shape and with all the trees and elevation changes, you'd have thought you were in Michigan or North Carolina!! Service was impeccable, I had access to the locker room,my cart had plenty of drinks,I had a box of tees,scorecard, personalized bag tag,plus a bottle of hand sanitizer!! My caddie David was outstanding in his knowledge,green reading and friendliness!! I shot 79,and cant wait to play the course  again!!

  • Patricia Aug-07-2020
    Resort World
    When in 2021 does Resort World plan to open?

  • IdahoPat Aug-07-2020
    Mixed views on the Wynn course
    Obviously, the scenery and service is gonna be second-to-none. It better be for those rates. The course doesn't rate in Golf Digest's Top 10 Nevada courses, but two listed (Shadow Creek, Cascata) have the same tie-ins with MGM and Caesars, respectively, that Wynn has with its course.
    
    But for what they charge in the high season, you can golf Pebble Beach. And the Wynn course ain't no Pebble Beach. My .02 for avid golfers who wanna take in a round in Vegas -- max out whatever goodwill you have at MGM, Caesars or Wynn to get your round comped. If money is an issue -- and it is for most of us -- there are plenty of great courses in Vegas that you can play for half the price, easy.

  • Hoppy Aug-07-2020
    Complete coverage 
    Wasn't Conrad supposed to report from Wynn GC?

  • King of the Bovines Aug-07-2020
    What did he score?
    I'm curious on how many strokes he had on the windmill.
    
    That one always gets me.
    
    The alligator one is easy - when it closes its mouth, hit that the ball.  By the time the ball gets to the gator, his mouth will open!
    
    And don't hit the ball into the clown's mouth at the end - they keep your ball when you do that!

  • Mike Scudiero Aug-08-2020
    Thanks, everyone
    This was a ton of fun to write and reading the responses has been just as enjoyable. I appreciate the feedback and am grateful to Deke and the Advisor for letting an outsider contribute like I did. As to some of your questions/thoughts raised here in the comments, here goes: 
    
    My score was rough. I stopped counting after 100. But I went in with eyes wide open about the quality of my game. By then the afternoon heat had kicked in and score became less of a concern :)
    
    There were no rangers/monitors. Your caddie will keep you moving but never in a way that feels forced or disrsepectful. And courtesy is important and respected. We had a 3-some in front of us that gladly let us play through, and a single behind us that we extended the same to. Absolutely no one involved in this process was anything but courteous.
    
    I can't help much with whether they have long clubs, but what they did provide was high quality.
    
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