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Switching Players

Bob Dancer

During a juicy promotion, let’s say I have a deal with “Peter” that I will leave a machine at 5 a.m. and he will take it over. Later on, perhaps noon, he will give it back. But when he arrives at 5 a.m., all of the relevant machines are full, and somebody is hovering — waiting for a machine to open up. How do we handle this situation?

If I know the person hovering and he is reasonable to work with, he already knows Peter is taking over. How? I’ll tell him beforehand. Most professionals have made similar deals in the past and we don’t want some sort of fight where casino employees get involved. That situation rarely ends well.

If players are fighting over a machine, many casinos “solve” the problem by kicking out one or both players or removing the machine. If the players want it that badly, it doesn’t take a genius slot director to conclude that he’s better off without it. 

If the hovering player is a stranger, we try to switch players without incident. I might ask Peter to watch my machine while I use the restroom. When he sits down, I’ll tell him I might be several minutes, and he can play with his own card and money until I return. He cashes out my money and gives it to me along with my card, and he begins to play.

It seems innocent enough. An hour later, when the hovering player realizes that I’m not coming back, the problem has usually gone away. Sometimes that player has found another machine. Sometimes that player has given up on playing on these particular machines during that promotion. (Most of us have “backup” plans in case our first choice of machines isn’t available.) 

Sometimes when a full bank of desirable machines is occupied, another player will ask if anybody is planning on leaving soon. (I do this myself.) The reason to do this is to “get in line.” Usually this is a good time to say words to the effect that, “My machine has somebody already in line.”

Despite your best efforts, sometimes somebody comes looking for a machine and announces that the only way to allocate machines is “first come first served” and he’s first in line for the next available machine. If Peter shows up for his shift while this person is waiting, I’ll whisper to him to let him know the situation. Sooner or later this person will either get a machine or leave the area for a bit. When he does, that’s the time to make the shift.  

One thing to keep in mind is that regardless of whatever is done today, most of us plan on playing for years and “what goes around, comes around.” Sometimes you have the machine and somebody else wants it. Sometimes somebody else has the machine and you want it. 

Treating people fairly is almost always the best policy. It doesn’t always work well, but it gives you the best chance of having good results for years to come.

There is one lady in greater Las Vegas who is known for being a real jerk about these things. She’s made a scene at several casinos where she feels people have not let her have her turn, and casinos have removed machines because of what she’s done. Insofar as I’m concerned, she doesn’t play fair, and I won’t work with her. But with most others, I do,

One last thing to mention is that there are fewer of these great video poker promotions than there used to be. Just a fact of life. Sharing great machines is far less of an issue than it used to be.

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How Do I Prepare to Stay Awake?

I received the following question for Richard’s and my mailbag show on Gambling with an Edge. It’s too involved to answer on the air. I thought I’d give it a go here.

Can you describe the steps you take to prepare for a play that may require you play during a time of day (graveyard for example) that is not a normal time for you to be playing? How far in advance do you start to adjust your schedule, and what other steps do you take?

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It’s Not So Easy

I’ve been playing video poker promotions for almost 30 years, and before that exploited blackjack promotions for about five years. I’ve absorbed a lot of “how to do things” over the years that are now second nature to me. When a new promotion comes along, I have enough experience, usually, to get the most out of it.

Recently, though, in another gambling game where they were giving away money, I was really out of my element.

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It All Adds Up

A friend, Jake Jacobs, posted in passing on a Facebook page recently that he’d been active in car rallyes in the Chicago area way back when. Some of them were time-speed-distance events where you were timed and crossing a checkpoint 30 seconds early was as bad as 30 seconds late — but both were better than 40 seconds either way.

The other type of rallye was called a gimmick rallye, where time was not a factor, although you had to finish by such-and-such a time because that’s when awards were passed out. You were scored on the basis of your answers to questions, such as, “What is the name of the first street you pass on the right?” or, “How many streetlights do you pass between xxx and yyy?” There was always some sort of trick in the rules leading many participants to get the wrong answer.

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Least Favorite Type of Promotion

Casinos have promotions all the time. Some are very useful to the winning player (such as point multipliers) and some are basically useless (such as 2-for-1 Margaritas during happy hour on Tuesdays.)

Today I want to write about what promotions I like the least and invite you to respond. Wherever you originally read this article, it will be posted on www.gamblingwithanedge.com, where comments are welcome and discussed.

To limit the discussion somewhat, I’ll propose the following parameters on the promotions:

     1. You must have an edge of at least a half percent.

    2. The promotion is within your bankroll (which will mean nickel games for some readers and much larger games for others.)

   3. The promotion will last a reasonable length of time. (This will exclude such things as “come in Thursday and pick up $10 in free play,” or “promotion limited to your first $1,000 of coin-in”.)

The promotions may include several things going on at once (i.e. point multiplier, earn tickets for a good drawing or two, and earn tier credits toward a tier whose benefits you desire.) This would be a good thing in my opinion — but opinions vary.

I do most of my gambling as a “local,” so comps such as RFB and airfare do not enter into my considerations. If you are not a local at whatever casino has this promotion, you’re welcome to include such comps in your equation.

So, with these parameters in mind, let me tell you what I like the LEAST. My list could very well expand after reading your responses.

   1. Very few relevant machines, so players must compete with each other for time on device. Sometimes you must show up six or more hours before the promotion starts in order to get a machine. Sometimes you show up six hours early and find that all machines are already taken with players who are planning on sticking around for the duration. Sometimes you can make a deal with a player to get the machine at such and such a time — sometimes you can’t.

   2. A relatively smoky casino. I know I need to tolerate some of this in order to play in casinos, but some have smoke levels that keep me away, no matter what the promotion is.

   3. Very high variance (say, larger volatility than Double Double Bonus) for stakes that are at the high end of my bankroll comfort zone. This is especially true if the casino has the reputation of kicking out players who win more than a certain amount. 

This means you’re either going to lose a considerable amount or get kicked out. Being kicked out usually includes the forfeiture of future free play (which could well have been part of the calculation) and you can lose comps and other valuable things.

   4. It’s at a tribal casino that has a reputation of not paying players. There is one such casino in Southern California where they recently offered a bonus on W2Gs, and a large number of players were kicked out. Understandably when there are a lot of W2Gs, things back up. Many players made “tickets” of, $2,000 or $3,000 to insert into the machines after they were paid in cash. The casino kicked out some of these players and refused to redeem their tickets. That means players were stuck holding worthless paper — which are only valuable if the casino says they are.

This is not an isolated incident. If you are unfamiliar with what can and does happen at these places, check out Bob Nersesian’s book, The Law for Gamblers, especially his chapter entitled, “Indian Gaming: OMG, WTF”

   5. Uncomfortable machines. This could be because the chairs are locked into position and don’t adjust — and the standard height doesn’t fit my body. It could be the screens are very dark and hard to read. It could be the buttons are very sticky and so frequent mistakes are common unless you play extremely slowly.

   6. Some of the benefits are uncollectible. It could be that there is a future drawing where I would have a decent chance at winning something, but I can’t be there. It could be that a large proportion of the benefits must be collected sometime in the future at that casino and it’s difficult or impossible for me to return. If the edge is high enough without these uncollectible benefits, then this doesn’t have to be a showstopper.

   7. I’m already way ahead recently at this place. Even if a casino doesn’t have a reputation for kicking players out, every casino has a limit for what they will tolerate. If I think I might be close, it makes sense to stay away for six months or so.

Okay. That’s my list at the current time. What did I get wrong and what did I forget to mention?

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Picking Up Free Play

Richard Munchkin received a note from a Gambling with an Edge listener about a subject to talk about. The note referred to a casino where the formerly 8/5 Bonus machines were recently downgraded to 7/5. Part of the note said: Continue reading Picking Up Free Play

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Teaching Advanced 8/5 Bonus

The new semester of free video poker classes at the South Point will begin on Wednesday, January 27, at noon, in the Grandview Lounge — which is eight days after this article is originally published. Everyone at least 21 years of age is welcome. Continue reading Teaching Advanced 8/5 Bonus