Breaking the Slot Code review

Originally posted by: Boris Radtke

One of the machines that are probably also in that book, that's the Regal Riches game. In the first or premier versions it may have worked out. But now  it seems this game has been taken from the floor and a new "Recal Riches (arch?) or so has been placed. That game has way more pots to fill and its graphics is stunning but I doubt that it is a game for vultures. Also I get the feeling that most casinos have been reducing such slots and in essence this makes it much harder for vultures to find a good machine and compention vultures are also a problem then.... 

Am I seeing this correctly or not?


It's actually a game where when you hit the bonus, a gaily dressed pig dances onto the screen, drops trou, and poops out cartoon coins. It's called "Fecal Riches."

I must say that the teachings in this book can make playing slot very advantageous. 
one must realize that there is some inherent volatility involved in this but the returns are far and above what you can extract from video poker. I used to play video poker successfully and around four years ago I stumbled across this advantage play opportunity.  
I had to dig really deep into the web to find information on the different games but mostly learned by paying attention to what was happening on the slot floors. Now there is so much information out there it is not nearly as advantageous as it was just two years ago. 
I will say with the information in the book and on the website anyone that spends time around casinos can still make many times what you would be paying for the information.  One good play can pay for years worth of the subscription.  With this said if you think you can walk into a casino today and find play after play you may be kidding yourself, but just a few plays a day can be rewarding. 

Originally posted by: Troy Williams

I must say that the teachings in this book can make playing slot very advantageous. 
one must realize that there is some inherent volatility involved in this but the returns are far and above what you can extract from video poker. I used to play video poker successfully and around four years ago I stumbled across this advantage play opportunity.  
I had to dig really deep into the web to find information on the different games but mostly learned by paying attention to what was happening on the slot floors. Now there is so much information out there it is not nearly as advantageous as it was just two years ago. 
I will say with the information in the book and on the website anyone that spends time around casinos can still make many times what you would be paying for the information.  One good play can pay for years worth of the subscription.  With this said if you think you can walk into a casino today and find play after play you may be kidding yourself, but just a few plays a day can be rewarding. 


You cannot possibly tell whether a play that looks advantageous is actually +EV. You can guess, you can surmise, but without knowing the inherent payback of the machine--something you know, in contrast, by simply looking at a VP machine's paytable--you can't determine whether a machine in its current state is truly profitable for you. Sure, you see a big fat juicy bonus, you think, "This must be a good play," but it may not be.

 

What you say is true, though. Bonusing machines are getting swarmed. This means that marginal plays are attacked by vultures and the really juicy stuff never gets a chance to appear. Some are saying that casino areas other than Vegas offer better opportunities, because Vegas has lots and lots of bottom-feeders who are vulturing every casino, every day.

The only thing that looks more boring to me than sitting and hitting a button at a slot machine is wandering around a casino looking for a machine that might, and I mean might, give me a little advantage...


judging from so many negative posts about this I'm guessing not a lot of people will be buying the Ultimate Book-Blackout Edition?

Originally posted by: Randall Ward

judging from so many negative posts about this I'm guessing not a lot of people will be buying the Ultimate Book-Blackout Edition?


I bought another book of that subject, about 6 months ago. The title is " cracking the casino"- The Smart Gambler's Guide to Advantage Slot Play.  I read it to the most part bot honestly it didn't tell me much more than I not already know. The cost of the book was not high, so I can live with the money spent. But the info I got from reading it was not dramatic and I think the author only touched the sensitive topics in order not to give too much information to the readers. Which of course makes sense.

Last time when I was staying at the Southpoint, somewhen in the evening, a guy walked by with a funny (idiotic) summer hat that made him look like a silly tourist. I have an eye for extraordinary situations that seem unusual to me. So I watched the guy for a while because from time to time he stopped at certain slot banks and clicked through the denominations. Of course I knew that he obviously knew something. So I followed him for a few minutes, with discretion, because I wanted to know what machines had his attention. Basically the persue was a precious 5 minutes walk and it showed me the fine nuances of regular slots and slots that might have a chance to get something. The guy didn't play at all, but I checked out the parameters of certain bonusses to get an idea what is "good" or what isn't good from that guy's point-of-view.

About 4 or 5 days later, the same guy walked by again, and of course he couldn't know that I knew what he was doing. He had that silly hat on again to look like a tourist, probably. Or perhaps to hide his face from the surveillance cameras. But his patterns were so obvious and again he didn't play at all. I only followed him for another 3 -4 minutes this time before I returned to my machine.  He didn't play at all again so I figure that he either wants an extremely high bonus situation, or that the machines in fact were not ready to be played. I then thought exactly what the other people in this forum have been writing: It's a hell of a long walk and takes time until you may find a good machine. And even then it's not guaranteed that you will win in that particular situation, but I believe that this is the right approach to play slots. And in addition to that...while that guy was walking the floor, he couldn't lose anything because he wasn't gambling. And sometimes you run into a mchine that may have 1 or 2 dollars left on the credit meter, in which case I think a vulture would put in a 20 dollar bill, make a spin at minimum bet, and then cash out immediately. A 75 cents or perhaps 2 dollar profit.

 

If you follow the strategy described above long enough, eventually you can make 20 or 30 dollars per day , even on minimum play I would say.  IT's not quite what I want to do when I am on  a Vegas vacation, but it's interesting that there are some people who really live like that, day after day. 

 

From Switzerland

Boris 

Originally posted by: Boris Radtke

I bought another book of that subject, about 6 months ago. The title is " cracking the casino"- The Smart Gambler's Guide to Advantage Slot Play.  I read it to the most part bot honestly it didn't tell me much more than I not already know. The cost of the book was not high, so I can live with the money spent. But the info I got from reading it was not dramatic and I think the author only touched the sensitive topics in order not to give too much information to the readers. Which of course makes sense.

Last time when I was staying at the Southpoint, somewhen in the evening, a guy walked by with a funny (idiotic) summer hat that made him look like a silly tourist. I have an eye for extraordinary situations that seem unusual to me. So I watched the guy for a while because from time to time he stopped at certain slot banks and clicked through the denominations. Of course I knew that he obviously knew something. So I followed him for a few minutes, with discretion, because I wanted to know what machines had his attention. Basically the persue was a precious 5 minutes walk and it showed me the fine nuances of regular slots and slots that might have a chance to get something. The guy didn't play at all, but I checked out the parameters of certain bonusses to get an idea what is "good" or what isn't good from that guy's point-of-view.

About 4 or 5 days later, the same guy walked by again, and of course he couldn't know that I knew what he was doing. He had that silly hat on again to look like a tourist, probably. Or perhaps to hide his face from the surveillance cameras. But his patterns were so obvious and again he didn't play at all. I only followed him for another 3 -4 minutes this time before I returned to my machine.  He didn't play at all again so I figure that he either wants an extremely high bonus situation, or that the machines in fact were not ready to be played. I then thought exactly what the other people in this forum have been writing: It's a hell of a long walk and takes time until you may find a good machine. And even then it's not guaranteed that you will win in that particular situation, but I believe that this is the right approach to play slots. And in addition to that...while that guy was walking the floor, he couldn't lose anything because he wasn't gambling. And sometimes you run into a mchine that may have 1 or 2 dollars left on the credit meter, in which case I think a vulture would put in a 20 dollar bill, make a spin at minimum bet, and then cash out immediately. A 75 cents or perhaps 2 dollar profit.

 

If you follow the strategy described above long enough, eventually you can make 20 or 30 dollars per day , even on minimum play I would say.  IT's not quite what I want to do when I am on  a Vegas vacation, but it's interesting that there are some people who really live like that, day after day. 

 

From Switzerland

Boris 


Good story, Boris.  Better than buying a book.  

 

Like others, that's not how I want to spend my time.  The 'Code' author advocates one or a few minimal bet spins and move on, then...well I lost interest, but seems like a similar strategy.  Of course I didn't read the whole book either.  So I shouldn't try to explain.

 

Candy

The best way to use the book, for me, is exactly what I wrote in the thread I started. It doesn't need to be an all-or-nothing play. It's all about having fun at the casino while keeping your eyes open for opportunities, and every once in a while, you'll find one.

 

A few trips back, walking through the Palms and glancing at a machine that's easy to determine whether to play or not, we found a very good situation. Played the machine, hit the free games, ended up with $1,164 with one free spin to go! I told my wife, "I hope we don't hit anything and trigger a hand pay!" We didn't; we cashed out our ticket and went on our merry way.

 

Originally posted by: MaxFlavor

The best way to use the book, for me, is exactly what I wrote in the thread I started. It doesn't need to be an all-or-nothing play. It's all about having fun at the casino while keeping your eyes open for opportunities, and every once in a while, you'll find one.

 

A few trips back, walking through the Palms and glancing at a machine that's easy to determine whether to play or not, we found a very good situation. Played the machine, hit the free games, ended up with $1,164 with one free spin to go! I told my wife, "I hope we don't hit anything and trigger a hand pay!" We didn't; we cashed out our ticket and went on our merry way.

 


Good one, Max.  A former (many years ago) LVA gal posted about her strategy, her Victory Walk.  She never played a hand after she hit something reasonably big,  maybe 300-400 or more, not necessarily a top jackpot.  She'd cash out, get up and do her "victory walk".  She didn't make a spectacle of herself, just hit, quit, run.

 

Candy

Originally posted by: O2bnVegas

Good one, Max.  A former (many years ago) LVA gal posted about her strategy, her Victory Walk.  She never played a hand after she hit something reasonably big,  maybe 300-400 or more, not necessarily a top jackpot.  She'd cash out, get up and do her "victory walk".  She didn't make a spectacle of herself, just hit, quit, run.

 

Candy


That's a common fallacy, that it matters whether the next spin is three seconds from now, three hours, or three days. You don't affect your results by stopping after a win...or by not stopping. The only time such a move would be a genuine "Victory Walk" is if she cashed out a big net win--then never played again. However, she was certainly going to be back at a machine sometime, probably soon. Bottom line--she never actually "quit." She just paused.

 

It's all just one long session, until you permanently stop playing (death/bankruptcy/scales fall from your eyes).

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