What should you use freeplay on?

Originally posted by: Boris Radtke

Last time I played it, that was at Sam's Town. Regular points, but insane volatility. I loved that double-deuces game on the first floor but it also is non-existent any longer. I tried triple deuces in hope to catch the deuces but it went down the drain too fast because wild royals and 5 of a kinds just don't pay enough and this is killingyou in triple deuces. 


Yeah, in other versions of DW, the wild royals and 5K keep you alive until you hit the Deuces (which keep you alive until you hit the royal). 

 

I somewhat facetiously constructed a hypothetical game where nothing pays except a royal. I calculated what the total royal payout would have to be and the volatility index thereof. I realized that the strategy would have to be drastically changed (dealt AAAA5, keep one of the Aces that isn't suited with the 5 and draw four), and my VP software choked on it.

 

I wondered: would anybody play it? Would APs play it if the return with the proper strategy turned out to be 102%? (That's a microcosm of the manufacturers miscalculating the return on 10/7 DB when it first came out.)

Originally posted by: AKQJ10

They probably conviently round up the EV's of the machines, and so would contend that a 99.8% machine is effectively 100%.


I thought that at first when I saw a section labeled 100%, but they also gave sections stating 99.9% and 99.7% etc

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Yeah, in other versions of DW, the wild royals and 5K keep you alive until you hit the Deuces (which keep you alive until you hit the royal). 

 

I somewhat facetiously constructed a hypothetical game where nothing pays except a royal. I calculated what the total royal payout would have to be and the volatility index thereof. I realized that the strategy would have to be drastically changed (dealt AAAA5, keep one of the Aces that isn't suited with the 5 and draw four), and my VP software choked on it.

 

I wondered: would anybody play it? Would APs play it if the return with the proper strategy turned out to be 102%? (That's a microcosm of the manufacturers miscalculating the return on 10/7 DB when it first came out.)


I guess that's the question, is it still positive EV if one is statistically expected to die before getting the payout? Haha. 

 

I would probably play a hand or two just for kicks. I know I won't win but it's fun to think of what to do with the payout. Similar to how a few times a year I pick up a couple Powerball tickets.

Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW

I guess that's the question, is it still positive EV if one is statistically expected to die before getting the payout? Haha. 

 

I would probably play a hand or two just for kicks. I know I won't win but it's fun to think of what to do with the payout. Similar to how a few times a year I pick up a couple Powerball tickets.


Having casually researched the subject and even read a couple of books about it, I strongly suspect that winning the lottery would be the ultimate horror. You'd be besieged day and night and would suddenly have thousands of new "friends."


Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Having casually researched the subject and even read a couple of books about it, I strongly suspect that winning the lottery would be the ultimate horror. You'd be besieged day and night and would suddenly have thousands of new "friends."


It certainly could be.

 

But there are protective measures to take. I would claim anonymously and wouldn't tell anyone. I would hire the nation's top lottery attorney. Yes there is such a thing. 

 

Then I would probably put the money in savings accounts and low risk investments. Live off the interest and never touch the principal. 

 

Obviously people in my life would know that I suddenly have more money but they would have no idea how much or how I got it. 

Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW

It certainly could be.

 

But there are protective measures to take. I would claim anonymously and wouldn't tell anyone. I would hire the nation's top lottery attorney. Yes there is such a thing. 

 

Then I would probably put the money in savings accounts and low risk investments. Live off the interest and never touch the principal. 

 

Obviously people in my life would know that I suddenly have more money but they would have no idea how much or how I got it. 


I would be like Charlie Brown and keep on buying baseball cards until I got a Joe Shlabotnik card. Might go through the whole $438 million, though.

Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW

It certainly could be.

 

But there are protective measures to take. I would claim anonymously and wouldn't tell anyone. I would hire the nation's top lottery attorney. Yes there is such a thing. 

 

Then I would probably put the money in savings accounts and low risk investments. Live off the interest and never touch the principal. 

 

Obviously people in my life would know that I suddenly have more money but they would have no idea how much or how I got it. 


States that do not allow anonymous lottery winnings are California, Connecticut, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Tennessee, Vermont, Washington, and Wisconsin, along with Washington, D.C.

Originally posted by: Inigo Montoya

States that do not allow anonymous lottery winnings are California, Connecticut, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Tennessee, Vermont, Washington, and Wisconsin, along with Washington, D.C.


There are ways around that with a good attorney. Such as claiming in the name of an organization/legal entity with the lawyer being the public representative of the organization. 

 

Expensive but worth it. 

 

 

Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW

There are ways around that with a good attorney. Such as claiming in the name of an organization/legal entity with the lawyer being the public representative of the organization. 

 

Expensive but worth it. 

 

 


All you need to do is set up a trust......An attorney can be the spokesperson for the trust.  Your name is never mentioned.   

Originally posted by: Edso

All you need to do is set up a trust......An attorney can be the spokesperson for the trust.  Your name is never mentioned.   


these states, you can still claim your winnings through a trust, but transparency or open-records laws will legally require the state to disclose the name of your trust, the trustee, and/or your name
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