Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW
Stations claims on their website that they have FPDW but doesn't specify which casino.
https://stationcasinos.com/play/video-poker/
Dueces Wild is listed in there 100% payback section.
At first I thought they were referring to NSU and rounding up but NSU is listed in a different section.
It might be APDW, Almost Positive Deuces Wild, with the 16/11/4/4 paytable. But that's a 99.97% game, so, not +EV.
Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis
It might be APDW, Almost Positive Deuces Wild, with the 16/11/4/4 paytable. But that's a 99.97% game, so, not +EV.
Could be.
They also claim to have a game called triple play deuces wild. That they state is 99.9%
Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW
Could be.
They also claim to have a game called triple play deuces wild. That they state is 99.9%
If they really have 11/16 deuces then this would be a great game to play for sure. I take it if they have it the game would be without any points.
Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis
It might be APDW, Almost Positive Deuces Wild, with the 16/11/4/4 paytable. But that's a 99.97% game, so, not +EV.
I just checked the videopoker secion on Palace Station website and couldn't find anything about Full Pay Deuces Wild. I see that they are offering up to 99.80 per cent games but they are excluded from any points, and so is the heaven-or-hell game, Triple Deuces Wild. The 50+ Day My Generation is only for "invited locals" and therefore not for everybody over 50 years and same applies to the other multiplier day once per week. I used to play at lot at Station until they came up with this ridiculous rule and no longer appreciate my action because I'm a tourist and I am not invited. Also, they closed their buffets which makes it even more unattractive to me to visit. Free parking ok, but if they treat me like a third class insect customer, they can forget it.
They had me at their president tier and now I am just dirt trash for them. I complained at the players club some years back but the lady didn't show any mercy so I walked. Never returned since. There are other casinos that appreciate my play. And I do play a lot when I am in town. Too bad for Station Casinos. They don't want my money and action.
From Switzerland / Boris
Originally posted by: Boris Radtke
I just checked the videopoker secion on Palace Station website and couldn't find anything about Full Pay Deuces Wild. I see that they are offering up to 99.80 per cent games but they are excluded from any points, and so is the heaven-or-hell game, Triple Deuces Wild. The 50+ Day My Generation is only for "invited locals" and therefore not for everybody over 50 years and same applies to the other multiplier day once per week. I used to play at lot at Station until they came up with this ridiculous rule and no longer appreciate my action because I'm a tourist and I am not invited. Also, they closed their buffets which makes it even more unattractive to me to visit. Free parking ok, but if they treat me like a third class insect customer, they can forget it.
They had me at their president tier and now I am just dirt trash for them. I complained at the players club some years back but the lady didn't show any mercy so I walked. Never returned since. There are other casinos that appreciate my play. And I do play a lot when I am in town. Too bad for Station Casinos. They don't want my money and action.
From Switzerland / Boris
Boris - the reasons you cite here are the exact reasons I no longer stay/play at the Palace Station after 30+ years of being a Stations visitor. The same type of treatment also is the reason I no longer frequent any Boyd property.
Originally posted by: Boris Radtke
I just checked the videopoker secion on Palace Station website and couldn't find anything about Full Pay Deuces Wild. I see that they are offering up to 99.80 per cent games but they are excluded from any points, and so is the heaven-or-hell game, Triple Deuces Wild. The 50+ Day My Generation is only for "invited locals" and therefore not for everybody over 50 years and same applies to the other multiplier day once per week. I used to play at lot at Station until they came up with this ridiculous rule and no longer appreciate my action because I'm a tourist and I am not invited. Also, they closed their buffets which makes it even more unattractive to me to visit. Free parking ok, but if they treat me like a third class insect customer, they can forget it.
They had me at their president tier and now I am just dirt trash for them. I complained at the players club some years back but the lady didn't show any mercy so I walked. Never returned since. There are other casinos that appreciate my play. And I do play a lot when I am in town. Too bad for Station Casinos. They don't want my money and action.
From Switzerland / Boris
I had probably given them over $20 million in action over the years; I, too achieved President level. I, too was gradually reduced to Pocket Lint status. They sent the unequivocal message that I wasn't worth anything to them.
So I haven't set foot in a Stations property in five years, and I almost certainly never will.
Fuck 'em.
They probably conviently round up the EV's of the machines, and so would contend that a 99.8% machine is effectively 100%.
Originally posted by: Boris Radtke
If they really have 11/16 deuces then this would be a great game to play for sure. I take it if they have it the game would be without any points.
Oh, definitely. It's a pretty rare game, though, so I doubt they have it, just as I doubt that they have any over 100% game. No points for sure.
Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW
Could be.
They also claim to have a game called triple play deuces wild. That they state is 99.9%
That game does exist, and if it has the best paytables, it would indeed be ALMOST 100%.
I kind of hate it, though. You play nickels at 75 cents a hand, and you get a great payoff for 2222, but in the meantime, you bleed out. The game has insane volatility, worse than Triple Double Bonus, I believe.
Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis
That game does exist, and if it has the best paytables, it would indeed be ALMOST 100%.
I kind of hate it, though. You play nickels at 75 cents a hand, and you get a great payoff for 2222, but in the meantime, you bleed out. The game has insane volatility, worse than Triple Double Bonus, I believe.
Last time I played it, that was at Sam's Town. Regular points, but insane volatility. I loved that double-deuces game on the first floor but it also is non-existent any longer. I tried triple deuces in hope to catch the deuces but it went down the drain too fast because wild royals and 5 of a kinds just don't pay enough and this is killingyou in triple deuces.
