About Monday Morning Quarterbacking...

What has Europe done that was better?

Who is calling for regime change?  I said the commies here should criticize China, but because they support China they won't criticize. 

I criticize the democratic leaders of NY for their delay & in fact were encouraging people to go out. 

So was Donald Trump ...

And unlike the governor of New York the president had access to the CDC and the warnings sent to him about the virus's  imminent pandemic in the UNited States which he spent the first two months calling a Fake News witch hunt.   Many Americans (including  governors) agreed since they dont get their information from internal, federal CDC memos - but rather from official statements from our executive branch ( In other words, President Trump's twitter account)

And  many governors  did not institute a stay at home order until much later than NY  (some stilll havent)  because we dont have a national response.    President dipshit outsourced leadership and accountability to the states instead of instituing a national response to a national pandemic.

Throwing around the word "commie" doesn't somehow change the Federal government's accountability for Federal responsibilities even if Tommy Shortbus wants it to.  

Watch and learn tom. I can hold three beliefs in my head at the same time:

China was evil at the start of this whole thing.

The mayor of New York was criminally incompetent.

President Trump behaved disgracefully.

Oh, and one more:

California, and particularly the San Francisco Bay, area handled it very well. If there hadn't been a shortage of test kits, because Trump, it would have turned out even better for them.

Leadership matters.

I thought that we have discussed the reason for the test kit delay, but it must have slipped by Mister.  There are several reasons, including the CDC putting out bad test kits.  I once again ask Mister, when is Trump to listen to doctors and when is he not.  The doctors where in charge, as Libs have argued for.  Another problem was a CDC/FDA policy implemented during the Obama run in 2009 which required all such testing to be centralized through the CDC.  This caused several problems, including zero chance that the CDC would have the needed capacity.  Furthermore, the policy did not allow for outside labs to develop their own testing.  I ask you once again.......when is Trump to listen to the doctors and when is he not?  One should note that this policy created a situation during the SARS pandemic with ZERO non-CDC labs being approved for testing.

Trump put the key folks from both the CDC and the FDA in a room, and told them not to leave until they came up with a solution, and that's the solution which is now allowing for widespread testing.  I'm not saying that Obama fucked up, because hindsight is 20/20, but Obama's policies, written by doctors, delayed our ability to produce vast numbers of test kits.  Once again, Mister, when should we listen to doctors, and when should we not?

Harry Truman famously said, "The buck stops here." I am certain that Boilerman now hates that phrase.

The National Security Council office responsible for tracking pandemics received intelligence reports in early January predicting the spread of the virus to the United States, and within weeks was raising options like keeping Americans home from work and shutting down cities the size of Chicago. Mr. Trump would avoid such steps until March.

Despite Mr. Trump’s denial weeks later, he was told at the time about a Jan. 29 memo produced by his trade adviser, Peter Navarro, laying out in striking detail the potential risks of a coronavirus pandemic: as many as half a million deaths and trillions of dollars in economic losses.

The health and human services secretary, Alex M. Azar II, directly warned Mr. Trump of the possibility of a pandemic during a call on Jan. 30, the second warning he delivered to the president about the virus in two weeks. The president, who was on Air Force One while traveling for appearances in the Midwest, responded that Mr. Azar was being alarmist.

Mr. Azar publicly announced in February that the government was establishing a “surveillance” system in five American cities to measure the spread of the virus and enable experts to project the next hot spots. It was delayed for weeks. The slow start of that plan, on top of the well-documented failures to develop the nation’s testing capacity, left administration officials with almost no insight into how rapidly the virus was spreading. “We were flying the plane with no instruments,” one official said.

By the third week in February, the administration’s top public health experts concluded they should recommend to Mr. Trump a new approach that would include warning the American people of the risks and urging steps like social distancing and staying home from work. But the White House focused instead on messaging and crucial additional weeks went by before their views were reluctantly accepted by the president — time when the virus spread largely unimpeded.

Asleep at the switch. Derelict of duty.

Leadership matters.

The University of Southampton has estimated China's deceit is responsible for 90% of the world's dead. The lies continue as China will only release research that the govt has vetted. 

This has all been mentioned before. 

So who do you think is the real villain here?

I have no problem with "The buck stops here" phrase.  Given the situation, Trump is doing very well.

Any statement that Trump is handling this crisis "very well" is the absolute height of Trumper delusion. He is continuing to press for the "opening up" of the country despite warnings from ALL of the experts that doing so would result in tens of thousands of additional deaths.

And of course, Trump continues to show no leadership and confines his efforts to praising himself and insulting others.

This, in Boiler World, constitutes doing a great job. Keep shaking those pom-poms!

Trump must also consider the economy, amoung other things, and the experts that Kevin speaks of all come from a single management silo.  The economy does not enter their minds, and possible it shouldn't.  That leaves it to Trump to also consult those not in the medical field.  If the virus kills 500,000 prematurely, and a depression kills 5,00,000, then we put too much credence in only the medical opinion.  I'm confident that this is something that many on this site have failed to considered.

You, for spreading a pointless racist narrative.

I'll bet you didn't study your source at all, but rather, eagerly leapt on it, saying "SEE?? SEE? TOLD YA!" Same old Tom "logic."

It's a single source, not vetted by anyone, and therefore not worth anything more than random noise. It's a major societal problem that people like you are willing to believe any kind of random shit if it aligns with their preconceived notions.

By the way, Tom, did you know that this is not the first coronavirus outbreak this century, but rather, the THIRD?