Alleged catalytic converter thief run over, killed in California

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

I guess you don't get what I'm saying. The story was on Fox News (big red flag there!) and reported gleefully by our resident asshole, as if it was something to celebrate.

 

All I know is, if I freak out and run over and kill someone, I'm both criminally and civilly liable. As I should be! The story isn't clear on whether she killed the guy to defend her precious catalytic converter or something else was going on.

 

At any rate, I call BS on the story. You can't cut two pieces of exhaust pipe with a hacksaw unless you have about fifteen minutes AND room to maneuver. You need an acetylene torch and an auto lift to do it even sort of quickly.

 

Plus, there's no market, even an illegitimate one, for a converter that's been hacked off another car. The fittings and pipes at each end would remain; plus, there would be no way to tell if the converter is any good. They have salvage value in the metal used as the catalyst, but that isn't all that much.

 

Who knows why the guy was under her car--he might have been a nefarious nogoodnik up to some form of malfeasance, especially if he was black (you know how THAR ALL CRINIMALS), but that didn't grant the driver a license to kill him.

 

No, it didn't. Sorry.

 

And as far as "consequences" are concerned--I don't want to live in a society so well-armed and paranoid that I can be shot or run over for appearing to touch someone's property with evil intent. I don't trust Goober McGun to make those kinds of decisions rationally.


Kevin just making shit up. What an idiot. 

 

1.  Catalytic converter thieves don't use fucking 'hacksaws' or take 15 minutes.  They slide under your vehicle and cut them out with a battery powered reciprocating saw.  Takes about a minute..

2.  Kevin claims there is no market for converters.  If that were true how does he explain the theft of 50,000+ devices in 2021?  Of course they are stealing them to take to corrupt recyclers for the platinum they contain.  They get $150 - $300 for them as scrap.  It costs victims $2000- $3000 to replace.

3.  Police know exactly why he was under her car....with a battery powered saw.  Also detained were his 3 accomplices.   I guess Kevin thinks he was giving her a free lube job.

4.  The woman was asleep in her SUV.  She woke up and tried to drive away...not expecting a criminal to be underneath.  She heard a bump and stopped.  Got out and called 911.  That’s not murder you fucking idiot.  The woman is the victim here.  The criminal thief was just another case of “Play Stupid Games Win Stupid Prizes”

5.  There are plenty of sources on this other than Fox News.  If Kevin was interested in anything other than spouting his ignorant and false thoughts he should read.  He won't do that though.  It's easier for him to just make shit up and call the real victim a murderer and everyone who disagrees with him racist.  Just a sad, old white man trying to be woke.

 

Originally posted by: Charles

Kevin just making shit up. What an idiot. 

 

1.  Catalytic converter thieves don't use fucking 'hacksaws' or take 15 minutes.  They slide under your vehicle and cut them out with a battery powered reciprocating saw.  Takes about a minute..

2.  Kevin claims there is no market for converters.  If that were true how does he explain the theft of 50,000+ devices in 2021?  Of course they are stealing them to take to corrupt recyclers for the platinum they contain.  They get $150 - $300 for them as scrap.  It costs victims $2000- $3000 to replace.

3.  Police know exactly why he was under her car....with a battery powered saw.  Also detained were his 3 accomplices.   I guess Kevin thinks he was giving her a free lube job.

4.  The woman was asleep in her SUV.  She woke up and tried to drive away...not expecting a criminal to be underneath.  She heard a bump and stopped.  Got out and called 911.  That’s not murder you fucking idiot.  The woman is the victim here.  The criminal thief was just another case of “Play Stupid Games Win Stupid Prizes”

5.  There are plenty of sources on this other than Fox News.  If Kevin was interested in anything other than spouting his ignorant and false thoughts he should read.  He won't do that though.  It's easier for him to just make shit up and call the real victim a murderer and everyone who disagrees with him racist.  Just a sad, old white man trying to be woke.

 


       Perfectly and truly said.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

I guess you don't get what I'm saying. The story was on Fox News (big red flag there!) and reported gleefully by our resident asshole, as if it was something to celebrate.

 

All I know is, if I freak out and run over and kill someone, I'm both criminally and civilly liable. As I should be! The story isn't clear on whether she killed the guy to defend her precious catalytic converter or something else was going on.

 

At any rate, I call BS on the story. You can't cut two pieces of exhaust pipe with a hacksaw unless you have about fifteen minutes AND room to maneuver. You need an acetylene torch and an auto lift to do it even sort of quickly.

 

Plus, there's no market, even an illegitimate one, for a converter that's been hacked off another car. The fittings and pipes at each end would remain; plus, there would be no way to tell if the converter is any good. They have salvage value in the metal used as the catalyst, but that isn't all that much.

 

Who knows why the guy was under her car--he might have been a nefarious nogoodnik up to some form of malfeasance, especially if he was black (you know how THAR ALL CRINIMALS), but that didn't grant the driver a license to kill him.

 

No, it didn't. Sorry.

 

And as far as "consequences" are concerned--I don't want to live in a society so well-armed and paranoid that I can be shot or run over for appearing to touch someone's property with evil intent. I don't trust Goober McGun to make those kinds of decisions rationally.


Kevin, you are the only poster who brings up race, particularly Black race, suggesting that every human who posts here has hatred of Blacks as their agenda no matter the topic. 

 

Stop it, won't you?  It makes you look obsessed and and could only serve to incite negative thoughts.  We don't need you to advocate for any culture or race with your silly faux racial advocacy.  JMHO.

 

Candy

Originally posted by: Charles

Kevin just making shit up. What an idiot. 

 

1.  Catalytic converter thieves don't use fucking 'hacksaws' or take 15 minutes.  They slide under your vehicle and cut them out with a battery powered reciprocating saw.  Takes about a minute..

2.  Kevin claims there is no market for converters.  If that were true how does he explain the theft of 50,000+ devices in 2021?  Of course they are stealing them to take to corrupt recyclers for the platinum they contain.  They get $150 - $300 for them as scrap.  It costs victims $2000- $3000 to replace.

3.  Police know exactly why he was under her car....with a battery powered saw.  Also detained were his 3 accomplices.   I guess Kevin thinks he was giving her a free lube job.

4.  The woman was asleep in her SUV.  She woke up and tried to drive away...not expecting a criminal to be underneath.  She heard a bump and stopped.  Got out and called 911.  That’s not murder you fucking idiot.  The woman is the victim here.  The criminal thief was just another case of “Play Stupid Games Win Stupid Prizes”

5.  There are plenty of sources on this other than Fox News.  If Kevin was interested in anything other than spouting his ignorant and false thoughts he should read.  He won't do that though.  It's easier for him to just make shit up and call the real victim a murderer and everyone who disagrees with him racist.  Just a sad, old white man trying to be woke.

 


Charles, you're a conservative. Thus, your thinking processes are both evil and fuzzy--a piquant combination, to be sure.

 

This is a philosophical argument more than anything else. I don't feel that if I catch someone trying to steal my newspaper off my lawn, I'm entitled to, and should, gun him down. You do. That's fine--we have different opinions. But I don't think that opinion should extend to dancing, gibbering, and capering every time an ordinary citizen takes the law in his/her own hands.

 

As I've said before, societies more civilized than ours have made that sort of thing much less likely to happen.


Originally posted by: O2bnVegas

Kevin, you are the only poster who brings up race, particularly Black race, suggesting that every human who posts here has hatred of Blacks as their agenda no matter the topic. 

 

Stop it, won't you?  It makes you look obsessed and and could only serve to incite negative thoughts.  We don't need you to advocate for any culture or race with your silly faux racial advocacy.  JMHO.

 

Candy


The story wouldn't even have been on Fox News--nor breathlessly reported by Millerscum--if the thieves hadn't been black and the victim/murderer white.

 

Candy, are you so naive as to think that the message of the story was anything other than "Heh, heh, heh, them thievin' darkies got a' what a' was comin' to them, heh, heh, heh?" Why do you think it wet David's panties so?

 

And as far as what I "suggest"--it's really, really, really fucking obvious that almost all of our resident conservitards are indeed racists. Just as it's obvious that they're all gun lovers. It's part of the brand, Candy! You can't be part of that gang otherwise. Let me ask you this--would an anti-racist conservative tolerate the RepubliQ's decades-long crusade to take away black citizens' voting and other civil rights?

Originally posted by: O2bnVegas

Kevin, you are the only poster who brings up race, particularly Black race, suggesting that every human who posts here has hatred of Blacks as their agenda no matter the topic. 

 

Stop it, won't you?  It makes you look obsessed and and could only serve to incite negative thoughts.  We don't need you to advocate for any culture or race with your silly faux racial advocacy.  JMHO.

 

Candy


  Like the racist Al Sharpton, Lewis has nothing to back up his lies and uses the concept of others being "racist" as his platform. Both of them are mentally ill.

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