And so it begins

Originally posted by: Candy Wright

I digress.

 

An article in our Sunday paper concerned children killed by guns.   My state is number 4, which is bad.   They interviewed parents of some of the victims, ages months to 16 years.  A few were killed in drive by shootings aimed at a family member.  Large number shot accidently by a sibling or childhood friend, or by the parent or other adult in the home.   One father was showing his rifle to his friend.  It happened to be loaded.  The friend, admiring the gun, pulled the trigger and shot the father's 2 year old in the head.  Dead, of course.  

 

Many admitted they knew their loaded ones were accessible to the kids, intended to lock them up but hadn't gotten around to it.  One said he wanted his kids to have access to the loaded guns in case of home invasion.   Every year in the legislative session regulations are proposed to require pediatric practices and hospitals to include gun safety in their patient/parent education, but it seldom gets traction.   Even so the pediatric hospital here has the question on its discharge instructions, "are there guns in the home" and gives out gun locking devices if answered in the affirmative.  Many parents surveyed for the article said they had been given the locks but just put them away unused.   

 

Many equate an emphasis on gun safety in the home with infringing on their gun control rights.  How stupid is that?


You know how Republicans have consistently blocked the CDC from investigating the root causes of gun deaths and the safety, or lack thereof, of keeping guns in the home? We don't have data that we desperately need, because of Republican fealty to the NRA.

 

One thing I'd like to see--a child (yours or someone else's) dies from a gun in your home, you should be charged with involuntary manslaughter as well as reckless endangerment. It's not an "accident," any more than if you left a bomb in your garage with a big red button on top.

 

What we have to do is de-fetishize guns. Gun love is a sickness, and there's definitely a sexual component to owning a substitute penis, er, gun. A gun is a tool used to kill people. I can't even imagine, except maybe on an intellectual level, how or why that would turn some people on. But it does. Oh, how it does.

 

Most European nations, Canada, Australia, and many others have grown beyond the gun love stage. They have matured, and gun deaths are MUCH less common in those countries than here. I think that people not dying "trumps" Cowboy Bob's gun fetish.

 

And before anyone brings it up yet again, the Second Amendment refers to the collective right of the people to form a militia, not for Tucky Buckford to amass an arsenal in his basement.

 Where is the written PROOF for this statement? ---"You know how Republicans have consistently blocked the CDC from investigating the root causes of gun deaths and the safety, or lack thereof, of keeping guns in the home?"

Originally posted by: David Miller

 Where is the written PROOF for this statement? ---"You know how Republicans have consistently blocked the CDC from investigating the root causes of gun deaths and the safety, or lack thereof, of keeping guns in the home?"


You can easily look it up yourself. I'll give you a hint: the law has been around for quite a while. It is actually ILLEGAL for the CDC to research gun safety.

 

But just so you know--I'm not obligated to supply YOU with written proof of anything. I might do so for others, if they ask politely, with the probable exception of Boiler, Tom, and Charles. I would endeavor to supply PROOF to DonDiego or Candy. But any remotely informed person knows what I'm referring to in this case.

 

You long ago forfeited any right to be talked to as if you were reasonable.

Show me the law you have made up - the thing about liars is they never produce proof.


Originally posted by: David Miller

Show me the law you have made up - the thing about liars is they never produce proof.


No. Find it yourself. I don't give a rat's ass what you call me. If you were the slightest bit informed, you'd already know about the law I'm referring to--or you would have the skills to look it up.

 

You apparently are able to scrape stuff out of Facebook's ass. A two-minute Google search would find what I'm referring to---you have the ability to do so.

There is no such law. Liars never produce proof.

Edited on Jun 22, 2020 2:48pm
Originally posted by: tom

One more shot Sunday in the zone, 88 shot in Chicago & 24 shot in NYC on Saturday. 

In Chicago a 13 year old was killed while sitting in her home. A 3 year old was also killed. 

Will there be marches over these senseless shootings?


Would marches against the senseless shootings accomplish anything? No.

 

Have the recent protests against police murder and brutality accomplished anything? Yes.

 

But don't worry, by next year there may be some relief. The "legal" Indiana gun dealers who provide guns to the criminals just over the border in Chicago may feel some heat from new federal laws to restrict such things. Once we give gun dealers a few life sentences, maybe we'll get their attention.

Better yet, how about giving a few gun toting criminals life sentences?

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

You know how Republicans have consistently blocked the CDC from investigating the root causes of gun deaths and the safety, or lack thereof, of keeping guns in the home? We don't have data that we desperately need, because of Republican fealty to the NRA.

 

One thing I'd like to see--a child (yours or someone else's) dies from a gun in your home, you should be charged with involuntary manslaughter as well as reckless endangerment. It's not an "accident," any more than if you left a bomb in your garage with a big red button on top.

 

What we have to do is de-fetishize guns. Gun love is a sickness, and there's definitely a sexual component to owning a substitute penis, er, gun. A gun is a tool used to kill people. I can't even imagine, except maybe on an intellectual level, how or why that would turn some people on. But it does. Oh, how it does.

 

Most European nations, Canada, Australia, and many others have grown beyond the gun love stage. They have matured, and gun deaths are MUCH less common in those countries than here. I think that people not dying "trumps" Cowboy Bob's gun fetish.

 

And before anyone brings it up yet again, the Second Amendment refers to the collective right of the people to form a militia, not for Tucky Buckford to amass an arsenal in his basement.


Yeah, I don't know anything about the "Republicans" reference.  Don't send proof.

 

I'd have to go back to the article again for specifics, but there have been prosecutions and penalties including jail time when children were maimed or killed by carelessness/negligence. 

In his post of 1:05pm 22 June, above, Kevin Lewis opines:" . . . the Second Amendment refers to the collective right of the people to form a militia, not for Tucky Buckford to amass an arsenal in his basement."

 

The Cornell Law School Legal Information Institute disagreees:

"In the 2008 case District of Columbia v. Heller, the Supreme Court held that the 'Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.' "

Ref: Cornell Law School 

 

 

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