So much for good guys with guns. The cops with guns stood around and did nothing for 40 minutes while that guy killed all the kids.
So much for good guys with guns. The cops with guns stood around and did nothing for 40 minutes while that guy killed all the kids.
Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis
I strongly disagree. How would you react if you inadvertently discovered that your next door neighbor was building bombs in his basement? For that matter, what would you do if he bragged to you that "the tools of the revolution are almost complete" or some such tommyrot and showed you pictures of his stash of C-4 and detonators? Nothing?
We all have a civic duty in this context. And I refer to Good Samaritan laws as a legal precedent. Not helping when help is needed, or not sounding an alarm when danger is apparent, is a forfeiture of such duty and should be punished. Period.
I'm cool with guards at schools, locked entrances, etc. (The "arm teachers" twaddle is ridiculous.) But I want gun retailers to be heavily taxed to pay for it. They caused the problem; they should have to pay to solve it.
Kevin, either you misread my post or...something. I KNOW about "see something, do something" and I agree. My point is more to the perception that we are unclear about the pathways of reporting or are afraid (based on fact or fiction) 1) we will face a penalty of some sort, or 2) nothing will come of the reporting. I am recalling the school shooting when school authorities called the parents to come and get a student when he voiced threats or they found notes or drawings or weapons...I forget exactly what. The parents declined. He carried out what he intended to do.
Candy
Originally posted by: Mark
So much for good guys with guns. The cops with guns stood around and did nothing for 40 minutes while that guy killed all the kids.
Yup. And the school cop didn't engage him at all.
Originally posted by: O2bnVegas
Kevin, either you misread my post or...something. I KNOW about "see something, do something" and I agree. My point is more to the perception that we are unclear about the pathways of reporting or are afraid (based on fact or fiction) 1) we will face a penalty of some sort, or 2) nothing will come of the reporting. I am recalling the school shooting when school authorities called the parents to come and get a student when he voiced threats or they found notes or drawings or weapons...I forget exactly what. The parents declined. He carried out what he intended to do.
Candy
Then the parents were accessories to murder
Were they ever charged with anything?
The pathways to reporting aren't unclear at all, and in the case of a minor who is devolving into a gun nut psycho, parents' duties are clear. Frankly, the Buffalo shooter kid Texas shooter kid Kenosha Killer Kid etc. etc. etc. ad nauseum should have been put down like rabid dogs the instant their insane, murderous nature became apparent. Why do we wait until hollow-point bullets tear into the bodies of children before we act?
An additional element of complicity is when parents raise their children in right-wing gun-love households; teenagers are impressionable and their brains aren't fully developed, especially in areas like judgment and impulse control. Perhaps we can't do anything about that directly. But maybe we can de-glamorize guns so that the default image in people's minds isn't Captain Conservative saving the day with his manly man GUNZ but rather, a seven-year-old girl lying on the floor of her classroom, crying and bleeding to death. THAT'S what guns are all about.
