Another School Shooting 15 Elementary Students Dead In Texas

Originally posted by: Mark

 

 

1. Remove gun manufacturers special exemption from product liability suits. Treat guns as any other manufctured product.

 

2. Require a mental health examination from a professional before allowing people to buy a gun to certify they are suitable for gun ownership.

 

3.  Make a gun owner criminally liable if someone obtains his gun through the owners carlessness and commits a crime. 

 

 


I agree with #1 and #3. 

 

How many times have school shootings been carried out by a teen whose parents had guns in the home, knew their kid was 'troubled' yet their guns were not secured?   The "won't happen with my kid" syndrome.  

 

And why is it a violation of law (or the perception of it) should someone (parent, doctor, teacher, even police) who suspects trouble to DO SOMETHING, call somebody and take the kid (or adult) out of action right now?  This kid texted a photo of his guns to a friend who actually questioned the shooter about it?  Privacy, hell!

 

As for #2, I just don't think it is realistically possible, wouldn't come through on any mental health exam.  Similar to stopping drug overdose deaths.  Won't show up in the interview.  Nice idea but it wouldn't work, other than creating another $600K/yr job at the government level to appoint a $500K surgeon general type to appoint boards and committees (paying six figures to meet twice a year) to study how this would be done and safeguard PRIVACY (bunk) at the same time. 

 

And I'm not pointing at any political party or leaning when I say all that.  JMHO.

 

Candy

 

 

Gordian knot solution: make fucking guns fucking illegal. Fucking period. Drastically escalate the penalties for gun sales. Drastically escalate the penalties for crimes committed using guns. Make the NRA illegal and have Wayne LaPrick or whatever his name is boiled alive.

 

And make it illegal NOT to alert the authorities if you detect that some kookoobird is waving his GUNZ around and fantasizing about killing people. This latest killer kid had a friend who knew he was going to do this but said nothing? Drag that friend off to jail; he's complicit in what happened.

 

Of course, the FREEDUMB argument will be deployed in faux outrage and horror in opposition to any such policy---by the same people who want a civilian abortion police.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Gordian knot solution: make fucking guns fucking illegal. Fucking period. Drastically escalate the penalties for gun sales. Drastically escalate the penalties for crimes committed using guns. Make the NRA illegal and have Wayne LaPrick or whatever his name is boiled alive.

 

And make it illegal NOT to alert the authorities if you detect that some kookoobird is waving his GUNZ around and fantasizing about killing people. This latest killer kid had a friend who knew he was going to do this but said nothing? Drag that friend off to jail; he's complicit in what happened.

 

Of course, the FREEDUMB argument will be deployed in faux outrage and horror in opposition to any such policy---by the same people who want a civilian abortion police.


I don't suggest "Drag that friend off to jail; he is complicit in what happened."  Of course he isn't, but it seems folks do see/know something very very possibly might/will happen, but don't know what they can do, who to call, and whomever receives the call, what can they do?  School (and Walmart and other buildings) shooters often have left clues ahead of the act, but officials (school, doctors, parents, yes, friends) who have been privy to those clues should not be held criminally liable should they take action that may temporarily take the sicko out of the game long enough to determine the sicko's intent and opportunity, prevent some of these tragedies.  

 

And, haven't enough of these school shootings happened that schools should have guards at every entrance all day long, and the authority to stop someone who looks out of place?  I mean, this guy is(was) 18 and killed a room full of little kids.  I know...cost, training, boring job all day until IT happens, etc.

 

None of this is simple and will never permanently end man's inhumanity to man, but perhaps prevent 1 out of 3, or better.

 

Candy

Originally posted by: O2bnVegas

I don't suggest "Drag that friend off to jail; he is complicit in what happened."  Of course he isn't, but it seems folks do see/know something very very possibly might/will happen, but don't know what they can do, who to call, and whomever receives the call, what can they do?  School (and Walmart and other buildings) shooters often have left clues ahead of the act, but officials (school, doctors, parents, yes, friends) who have been privy to those clues should not be held criminally liable should they take action that may temporarily take the sicko out of the game long enough to determine the sicko's intent and opportunity, prevent some of these tragedies.  

 

And, haven't enough of these school shootings happened that schools should have guards at every entrance all day long, and the authority to stop someone who looks out of place?  I mean, this guy is(was) 18 and killed a room full of little kids.  I know...cost, training, boring job all day until IT happens, etc.

 

None of this is simple and will never permanently end man's inhumanity to man, but perhaps prevent 1 out of 3, or better.

 

Candy


I strongly disagree. How would you react if you inadvertently discovered that your next door neighbor was building bombs in his basement? For that matter, what would you do if he bragged to you that "the tools of the revolution are almost complete" or some such tommyrot and showed you pictures of his stash of C-4 and detonators? Nothing?

 

We all have a civic duty in this context. And I refer to Good Samaritan laws as a legal precedent. Not helping when help is needed, or not sounding an alarm when danger is apparent, is a forfeiture of such duty and should be punished. Period.

 

I'm cool with guards at schools, locked entrances, etc. (The "arm teachers" twaddle is ridiculous.) But I want gun retailers to be heavily taxed to pay for it. They caused the problem; they should have to pay to solve it.


DNA tests are being required to identify the bodies.    Thats because the bodies are unidentifiable by any visual means.     

 

Thats what assault rifles do.   They dont just shoot a hole into the target....the rounds for assault weapons tear, shred and obliterate all surrounding tissue to the contact area.  A handful of rounds is enough to make a target look like they were thrown into a blender.     Thats all of the 2nd and 3rd graders who were killed.

 

SO when people say getting rid of assault weapons wouldnt help...or the killer would just find some other way...think of that visual and how bullshit that argument is.      

The recent most disgusting development is some Texas politician, I forget who, trying to make political hay out of the massacre by making up some mythical transgender character who supposedly did it. Abbott's response to the news was to attend a scheduled fundraiser.

 

They really are fucking assholes in Texas. What a human cesspool.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

The recent most disgusting development is some Texas politician, I forget who, trying to make political hay out of the massacre by making up some mythical transgender character who supposedly did it. Abbott's response to the news was to attend a scheduled fundraiser.

 

They really are fucking assholes in Texas. What a human cesspool.


    You are the cesspool.

Originally posted by: David Miller

    You are the cesspool.


I don't shoot people. You Texans do.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

I don't shoot people. You Texans do.


             All you "shoot" is your lying mouth - your mouth is your cesspool.

David approves of school shootings. Not surprising.

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