Biden's Covid Response

Yeah, Tom's vague suspicions, the nonsense fed to him by conservitard propaganda, and his childishly stupid misinterpretations of what he sees and reads--we don't consider those things to be 100% proof or even 1% proof of anything.

Gol-durn truth-worshipping libtards!

Johns Hopkins study on lockdowns

A new Johns Hopkins study shows that our hysterical effort at shutting down society reduced COVID mortality by just 0.2%. 40 million thrust out of work, a third of small businesses ruined, education of kids ignored, overdoses skyrocketing, shelves empty, all for 0.2%.

Yeah, an unbiased article, Tommie-poo. "Hysterical" effort. "Shutting down society" (that's bullshit, of course).

But let's look at that "just" 0.2% figure. 0.2% of the US population is 660,000 people. So Tommie-poo tells us that that "hysterical effort" saved a lousy two-thirds of a million lives. Gee, I agree, hardly seems worth it!

Dumb fuck.

Nope, Kevin, you're very confused.  The study shows that the lockdowns lowered the number of deaths by 0.2%.  There's been 900,000 Covid deaths, and without the lockdown totals deaths would have been 900,000 X 0.998 = 898,200.  In other words, the shut down saved 1820 lives.

The study was by John's Hopkins one of the top hospitals in the country. Why are they biased? 

As I recall, most of the severe lockdowns predated the Biden Administration. So what's your point? (Biden's Covid Response is the title of this thread.) Under Biden, it's been masks and vaccines.

Of course this is correct.   We're talking about .02% saved over the actual death toll not .02% of the population.  Kevin's number assumes everyone will die of Covid except the .02% saved by lockdowns.  "Dumb Fuck" indeed.  It's actually even fewer 'saved' as lockdowns were lifted in most states before we reached the 900,000 number.  The study makes the point that:

1:  Original models the lockdowns were based on predicted 90+ percent reduction of deaths.

2.  The 1800 extra deaths pale in comparison when you consider increased cancer deaths due to shutdown of cancer screening and other deferred medical treatments and exams, small businesses ruined, excess deaths due to increased drug use and suicides, and the impact of lockdowns and remote learning on education to a generation of children.

The conclusion of the analysis is "lockdowns have had little to no public health effects, they have imposed enormous economic and social costs where they have been adopted. In consequence, lockdown policies are ill-founded and should be rejected as a pandemic policy instrument."

Although the analysis is not yet peer reviewed, if proven accurate, it points to a huge failure of public health policy.  Let's hope we learn from these mistakes.

Here is a link to the actual Johns Hopkins research:

https://sites.krieger.jhu.edu/iae/files/2022/01/A-Literature-Review-and-Meta-Analysis-of-the-Effects-of-Lockdowns-on-COVID-19-Mortality.pdf

People will Die!

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Uh guys, what shutdown? I mean under Biden?

Shutdowns were handled on a state by state basis.  NYC, for example, was shut down for a long  time.  Illinois was shut down for a long time.  I'm talking restaurants and bars for maybe 6 months.  Government gave away a couple trillion $ to not work, which was stupid.

Trump was involved, and Biden made it obscene 

I reacted to it the way Tommie-poo posted it. Of course, he was referencing an alt-right propaganda source rather than the actual study. When I saw the language the source used to describe the study, I knew that Tommie-poo's source was dogshit and not worth reading.

Even assuming that the study's numbers are correct--and there's no way we can ever really know that, it's all an after-the-fact hypothesis--I don't consider any measures that saved almost 2,000 people inconsequential at all. That's five jumbo jets full of people. The entire population of many small towns.

I would be willing to endure a little bit of inconvenience to save that many lives. I lived through the lockdowns. So did you, albeit with a lot of whining.