Big Spender Biden To Blame for Inflation and Coming Debt Ceiling Brawl

Do you trust the CBO? Why? That "balanced out" scenario you referred to hasn't factually happened since Clinton was President ( with a large influence / encouragement from an R Congress). That was the last time we experienced a balanced budget. These politicians overspend out of habit..it's often about their power retention/ power seat in some form or fashion. In the meantime, the government agencies and offices continue to swell in size and scope..do we need them to ( beyond population corrections)? Prove it.  It takes half a day to get them to answer the customer services phone, if lucky.

 

It's the wasteful and misguided part of all that " horrible horrible gummint spending" you referred to that hacks me off. We can't even agree on what those parts are..and we're certainly not going to agree on how to deal with a $31.5 trillion dollar debt ( and that doesn't even include  the unfunded liability tally). As I've stated before, I blame the R's for some of it, too. They, in particular, should perhaps be more ashamed ( the ones within the party that are factually responsible). It's a corrupted system, unfortunately. The very last thing they should cut is SSI/ Medicare benefits, too..just to let you know where I stand on that. Older retired people have already paid into those resources their entire lives..why steal it back from them?

 

So, I disagree with you ( and I don't like your NFL team this upcoming Sunday PM, either).

 

But feel free to try and convince somebody / anybody else of your position/s. I'm not buying it.

Edited on Jan 20, 2023 1:17pm
Originally posted by: Vegas Todd

Here, dumbshit.

 

https://www.propublica.org/article/national-debt-trump


  Well, shit for brains, I read the article and NOWHERE did the article state that President Trump ADDED $28 Trillion to the national debt.  Show me where it does - or shut your lying mouth.

Originally posted by: David Miller

  Well, shit for brains, I read the article and NOWHERE did the article state that President Trump ADDED $28 Trillion to the national debt.  Show me where it does - or shut your lying mouth.


Weeks later, COVID-19 erupted and made the financial situation far worse. As of Dec. 31, 2020, the national debt had jumped to $27.75 trillion, up 39% from $19.95 trillion when Trump was sworn in.

 

Obviously reading is difficult to you. Idiot.

Originally posted by: Vegas Todd

Weeks later, COVID-19 erupted and made the financial situation far worse. As of Dec. 31, 2020, the national debt had jumped to $27.75 trillion, up 39% from $19.95 trillion when Trump was sworn in.

 

Obviously reading is difficult to you. Idiot.


Obviously you LIED with your original post. You can not blame President Trump for the necessary actions he took to save the economy when covid hit. Once again, post where you article said that President Trump increased the national debt by $28 Trillion. Now, shut your lying mouth, shit for brains.


Originally posted by: David Miller

Obviously you LIED with your original post. You can not blame President Trump for the necessary actions he took to save the economy when covid hit. Once again, post where you article said that President Trump increased the national debt by $28 Trillion. Now, shut your lying mouth, shit for brains.


You can't possibly realize just how stupid you are, now can you.

Maybe your mom's mumified corpse in the basement will explain it to you, Davee-Boi.

During Trump's term, the onset of Covid included, the debt rose by about $7T  Over Obama's two terms, the debt rose by about $8.6T.

 

For those interested / inclined (Mr. P would approve)...here's a link with that info. How fuzzy / accurate is it? You decide.

 

https://www.thebalancemoney.com/us-debt-by-president-by-dollar-and-percent-3306296

Edited on Jan 20, 2023 1:41pm
Originally posted by: Vegas Todd

You can't possibly realize just how stupid you are, now can you.

Maybe your mom's mumified corpse in the basement will explain it to you, Davee-Boi.


 I am still waiting for you to post the part that says President Trump increased the national debt BY adding $28 Trillion to the national debt. 

Originally posted by: David Miller

Obviously you LIED with your original post. You can not blame President Trump for the necessary actions he took to save the economy when covid hit. Once again, post where you article said that President Trump increased the national debt by $28 Trillion. Now, shut your lying mouth, shit for brains.


Todd schooled you yet again, Davey Dog.

Originally posted by: Charles Higgins

Do you trust the CBO? Why? That "balanced out" scenario you referred to hasn't factually happened since Clinton was President ( with a large influence / encouragement from an R Congress). That was the last time we experienced a balanced budget. These politicians overspend out of habit..it's often about their power retention/ power seat in some form or fashion. In the meantime, the government agencies and offices continue to swell in size and scope..do we need them to ( beyond population corrections)? Prove it.  It takes half a day to get them to answer the customer services phone, if lucky.

 

It's the wasteful and misguided part of all that " horrible horrible gummint spending" you referred to that hacks me off. We can't even agree on what those parts are..and we're certainly not going to agree on how to deal with a $31.5 trillion dollar debt ( and that doesn't even include  the unfunded liability tally). As I've stated before, I blame the R's for some of it, too. They, in particular, should perhaps be more ashamed ( the ones within the party that are factually responsible). It's a corrupted system, unfortunately. The very last thing they should cut is SSI/ Medicare benefits, too..just to let you know where I stand on that. Older retired people have already paid into those resources their entire lives..why steal it back from them?

 

So, I disagree with you ( and I don't like your NFL team this upcoming Sunday PM, either).

 

But feel free to try and convince somebody / anybody else of your position/s. I'm not buying it.


Well, your stance becomes GIGO once you ask why someone should trust the CBO. Who else? Tucker Carlson? The tabloids? My favorite pundit, the Breakfast Bloviator at the local coffee shop?

 

I KNOW that mistrust of government is a standard conservative shibboleth, and of course it allows your gang to reflexively put down anything you don't like as "proof" of government incompetence/malfeasance/corruption. Makes you feel good and wise. I had hoped you were made of sterner stuff than to devolve to that knee-jerk reaction, though.

 

And a balanced budget, Charles, isn't even a desirable goal--not when the shortfall can be borrowed at one-seventh of inflation rates! Do you honestly not get that?

I dont have the time of day for any Republican lecturing about cutting spending.   They adopt that ideology only when they are out of power.   Try and find a thread anywhere on this board from a Republican during Trump's tenure complaining about his massive spending.    I'll save you 10 minutes of your life on Google....you wont find one.

 

Nobody embraces Keynsian economics more than Republicans - but only when they own the White House.   As soon as they leave the pretend like Government spending is the root of all evil...sorta.    Enter Mike Holcomb, governor of Indiana...he loves to  blast Federal Spending while he is simulateously touring the state yelling to anyone who will listen all the great infrastructure projects he's going to be building with the same money he's bitching about.   He's an over the top hypocrite.  So are all the other ones.

 

 

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