Originally posted by: David Miller
All of your bullshit covering dialogue does not change the obvious.
The Constitution is the law. What you have to say, or what I have to say, doesn't change that. The Constitution is the law.
Originally posted by: David Miller
All of your bullshit covering dialogue does not change the obvious.
The Constitution is the law. What you have to say, or what I have to say, doesn't change that. The Constitution is the law.
Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis
The Constitution is the law. What you have to say, or what I have to say, doesn't change that. The Constitution is the law.
So David Miller is losing his shit because California won't provide or open their voter rolls to the Federal Government, just like a bunch of states have and are currently doing.
As you have stated the Constitution, under the election clause gives the States the responsibility for voter registration, and can't force States to provide their voter rolls. States could provide them if they want, but Michigan's Secretary of State let the citizens of her state know that the Fed wanted to do this and that it was an unlawful demand.
I'll go along with her that she knows what's up and Miller can suck it.
Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis
The Constitution is the law. What you have to say, or what I have to say, doesn't change that. The Constitution is the law.
While I agree that the Constitution is "the law", now post where in the Constitution is it written, in verbatim, what you say here?.Post the part of the Constitution that actually says what you claim. This is your story, now verify it.
They're right, David re: the Constitution and this issue.
Originally posted by: Nines
They're right, David re: the Constitution and this issue.
They may be - I would like to see where it is thus stated, in verbatim.
Originally posted by: David Miller
They may be - I would like to see where it is thus stated, in verbatim.
Republicans believe that every eligible voter who wants to vote must be able to do so, and all lawful votes must be counted according to state law. Through an examination of history, precedent, the Framers' words, debates concerning ratification, the Supreme Court, and the Constitution itself, this document explains the constitutional division of power envisioned by the Framers between the States and the federal government with respect to election administration. Article 1, Section 4 of the Constitution explains that the States have the primary authority over election administration, the "times, places, and manner of holding elections". Conversely, the Constitution grants the Congress a purely secondary role to alter or create election laws only in the extreme cases of invasion, legislative neglect, or obstinate refusal to pass election laws. As do other aspects of our federal system, this division of sovereignty continues to serve to protect one of Americans' most precious freedoms, the right to vote.
from here
https://cha.house.gov/
So we can stop hearing David Miller whine about this issue, just copy the link and paste in the Google Address Bar.
https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S4-C1-2/ALDE_00013577/
It explains the states' responsibility for voter registration, including voter protection. If the Fed knew how people voted, they COULD terget them. It is all mentioned in the first paragraph in the linked from the Constitution Annotated site. See the bolded section below.
Article I, Section 4, Clause 1:
The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.
By its terms, Article I, Section 4, Clause 1, referred to as the Elections Clause, contemplates that state legislatures will establish the times, places, and manner of holding elections for the House of Representatives and the Senate, subject to Congress making or altering such state regulations (except as to the place of choosing Senators).1 The Supreme Court has interpreted the Elections Clause expansively, enabling states to provide a complete code for congressional elections, not only as to times and places, but in relation to notices, registration, supervision of voting, protection of voters, prevention of fraud and corrupt practices, counting of votes, duties of inspectors and canvassers, and making and publication of election returns.
2 The Court has further recognized the states’ ability to establish sanctions for violating election laws3 as well as authority over recounts4 and primaries.5 The Elections Clause, however, does not govern voter qualifications, which under Article I, Section 2, Clause 1, and the Seventeenth Amendment must be the same as the Qualifications requisite for Electors of the most numerous Branch of the State Legislatures.
6 Similarly, the authority of states to establish the Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives
does not include authority to impose additional qualification requirements to be a Member of the House of Representatives or a Senator, which are governed by the Constitution’s Qualification Clauses at Article I, Section 2, Clause 2 for Members of the House and at Article I, Section 3, Clause 3 for the Senate.7
If this doesn't get through to him, nothing will, and everyone should just abandon this thread.