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Contrary to liberal belief, respect is given to those who EARN it, and one should not be given respect just because they held office. President Trump has EARNED mine and millions of others the respect he has been and continues to receive. I don't "hate" Obama, and not for the reason you named. I consider him the worst President that I have had the misfortune to accept since I have been alive. During his regime- 1) the United States acquired the largest defecits in history, 2) the U.S. suffered thru the worst economic recovery in history, 3) Obamacare- speaks for itself,4) purging of Guantamano and the resultant actions of the released terrorists has been renewed terrorist activities by these same individuals, 5) Obama's surveillance state. These and many more reasons are why I do and will continue to despise him. 

1) Obama inherited a huge deficit, and after eight years of his Presidency, that deficit was greatly reduced. The current Trump deficit is roughly twice what it was during Obama's last year in office, so you should really hate Trump for doubling the deficit. That's unless you only object to deficits when uppity darky Presidents are in office.

2) "Worst economic recovery in history" is a nonsensical phrase.

3) If you hate the idea of people getting healthcare, you would indeed hate Obama for doing that.

4) I don't know, and neither do you, what specific activities those released from Guantamano have been engaged in since. But you SHOULD know that it's illegal under US law to hold people indefinitely without charges--even if they ARE suspected of terrorism. See: habeas corpus.

5) "Obama's surveillance state" is likewise nonsensical.

Actually, you may refuse to afford Obama any respect, but if you're a decent American, you should. He was elected by your fellow citizens (and Trump wasn't, but I won't go there). But the difference between him and Trump is that he is a good and decent person, and Trump is not.

If you truly don't realize the vast differences between the characters of the two men, and you really think that Trump is a decent human being and Obama is not, then you're beyond hope. That's also kind of disgusting.

The brainwashing of certain persons continues to be displayed. As far as President Trump and Obama are concerned, I have the utmost respect for President Trump.

Well, nothing more needs to be said. Your respecting Trump shows some serious problems with understanding common decency, humanity, and morality. In addition to all that, even if he was a good person, he'd still be far too stupid to be qualified for the Presidency. You excuse that every day.

Nobody who sees that about Trump is "brainwashed." I know an amoral person when I see one. I also know a stupid person when I see one. And you know what? I'm fairly certain that you're lying when you say you don't understand that.

You also should understand that Obama is a decent man in so many ways that Trump is not. I think you do understand, but for whatever reason, you choose to pretend otherwise. It's not honorable.

Nonetheless, there were millions of people who loved Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Vlad the Impaler, Ivan the Terrible, etc. I certainly understand that no matter how horrible a leader may be, there will still be people who "have the utmost respect," even fetishistic love, for him. It's nothing new.

I am proud so many conservatives have seen the light and are openly disavowing capitalism.  It is a big step to admit only the government can solve some problems. 

BTW Tom, Boilerman, Don and David Miller the T-shirts you ordered are in.

Don't feel bad. Everybody wants to be a Socialist now. 

Nothing is free. The draconian over response to this virus has mandated the need. The media hype fueled it. We now have a case in which the cure is worse than the disease. As a person who believes in individual rights Im disappointed in many republicans rolling over and allowing the closing of private business in the name of emergencies. If this lasts much longer I expect some court fights. If this becomes the new norm whats to stop the republicans to say the health of the unborn is an emergency and all abortion clinics must be closed or the democrats to do the same and demand all gun shops closed. This is a slippery slope. 

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God, do I hate slippery slope arguments. If we have speed limits on the freeway, the gummint will eventually take away our right to drive. If we regulate food safety, there will be government agents in our kitchens. If we allow people to apply for asylum, billions of them will come flooding across our borders and set up taco trucks. If we keep football players from trying to wrench opponent's heads from their bodies, pretty soon tackling will be outlawed.

One should not refrain from an action on the assumption that it will be carried to an extreme. One should also not believe that because the government exerts emergency powers, we are sliding into a fascist dictatorship.

Do you realize that "individual rights" includes the right to be safe? Governments regulate human behavior for that purpose all the time--and they should. Not everybody acts responsibly. We all should have started to practice social isolation several days ago. But not everybody's going to do that voluntarily--and this is a case where only, say, ten percent of the population not taking precautions is as bad as no one taking precautions at all. So I certainly understand the "overreaction."

I'll give you a not-terribly-great analogy. You know how you're driving along a back road, and a sign says there's a curve ahead, "25 MPH"? You slow to that speed and realize that you could have taken it comfortably at 35 or even 40. But if they change the sign to 35 or 40, some will take it at 50--or maybe, 110. Crash boom bang. So the government sometimes has to be overly strict to get everyone to behave.

This is where the libertarians start to complain. But pandemics are crises wherein everyone has to be on the same page, or any mitigation efforts are useless.

In a lot of cases, it is Republicans ordering the closure. They aren't simply rolling over. The closures in a macro sense are the right thing to do for public safety.  However, I understand in a micro sense how business owners feel about the loss of their business. 

Ive stated before and will again, mitigation efforts wont stop this. You an blame Trump, China, spring breakers, or the democrats who also did nothing for 2 months. The fact is you cant stop an airborne virus. It can be slowed, not stopped until a virus is created. It will return. The slippery slope of these draconian measures is going to create a global economic crisis. When that happens bitching over whos fault it was will seem quaint. Nothing will keep you safe except your gun.