Darwin on a statewide level

Originally posted by: David Miller

I did not say the "animals" were Chinese. I said the virus that the whole world is dealing with came from China, therefore, China virus.


Perhaps you don't understand that "Chinese" refers to of ethnic or national origin, not location.

 

And as I've patiently tried to explain, the coronavirus did NOT necessarily "come from" China. It originated in animals, and animals migrate. They do not respect national borders, especially if, like bats, they can fly.

 

Previous coronavirus outbreaks have happened within the last decade in Asia and Africa. Animals that have been known to transmit it include birds, bats, camels, civets, and pangolins (armadillo-like animals).

 

What was seen in China was a new mutation of that same coronavirus. It is far from the first such mutation--at least six other widespread mutations have been discovered in Asia and Africa.

 

As always, science trumps racism.

Once again, for those with limited comprehension, China virus is thusly named so because of the country in which it originated.  If one is having a difficult time comprehending this I suggest they find and ask any 3rd grader to explain it to them.

Edited on Apr 5, 2020 1:01pm
Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Then I'm sure that DonDiego would raise no objections to the Spanish flu of 1918 being more accurately named the "American flu." He might enjoy researching this, if he can find an unbiased source.

 

In any event, the coronavirus has an animal origin, most likely bats, and I am unaware of any bats being or having been Chinese citizens, ethnically Chinese, or agents of the Chinese government.


Surprisingly, or maybe not so much, poor old DonDiego had already "researched" this topic, within the last few hours.  He found the following:

 

"While it’s unlikely that the “Spanish Flu” originated in Spain, scientists are still unsure of its source. France, China and Britain have all been suggested as the potential birthplace of the virus, as has the United States, where the first known case was reported at a military base in Kansas on March 11, 1918. Researchers have also conducted extensive studies on the remains of victims of the pandemic, but they have yet to discover why the strain that ravaged the world in 1918 was so lethal."

Ref: history.com

[ boldface added ]

 

DonDiego has no objection to renaming the "Spanish Flu" to whatever the Disease Naming Authorities [DNA] choose; although he supposes the name "Spanish Flu" is likely to persist in the public-mind.

We don't know where it originated. Its present mutated form was first discovered in China. It could have originated anywhere in Asia or Africa. It's animal-borne, and I know of no animal that observes national borders.

 

But if you want to adhere to a racist false narrative, that's your lookout. 


Originally posted by: Don

Surprisingly, or maybe not so much, poor old DonDiego had already "researched" this topic, within the last few hours.  He found the following:

 

"While it’s unlikely that the “Spanish Flu” originated in Spain, scientists are still unsure of its source. France, China and Britain have all been suggested as the potential birthplace of the virus, as has the United States, where the first known case was reported at a military base in Kansas on March 11, 1918. Researchers have also conducted extensive studies on the remains of victims of the pandemic, but they have yet to discover why the strain that ravaged the world in 1918 was so lethal."

Ref: history.com

[ boldface added ]

 

DonDiego has no objection to renaming the "Spanish Flu" to whatever the Disease Naming Authorities [DNA] choose; although he supposes the name "Spanish Flu" is likely to persist in the public-mind.


Perhaps DonDiego might agree, then, that labeling any pandemic-causing pathogen as being of a particular national, ethnic, or racial origin is misleading at best and unfairly pejorative at worst.

 

Perhaps also, DonDiego might agree that assigning the coronavirus a national/ethnic name serves no purpose and serves only to provide an excuse for racial discrimination.

 

Finally, DonDiego might wish to read my posts regarding the prior persistence and widespread nature of the coronavirus, including its origins in animals who do not, in fact, have Chinese ethnicity or citizenship and did not necessarily originate in China.

Nothing "racist" here - only a statement of the virus, that came from China, being aptly named "China virus". 

Edited on Apr 5, 2020 1:37pm

It didn't come from China. It was discovered there. Big difference.

 

But racism is usually immune to logic.

If it didn't come from China, then what country did it come from?  You state "But racism is usually immune to logic" -- to that I say," and so are idiots".

Originally posted by: tom

Mp is wrong. Obama did not declare a national emergency until 10/24. 


Really?

 

On April 26, 2009, "The United States Government declared 2009 H1N1 a Public Health Emergency."

 

According to the "librul media?" Nope. According to the CDC website.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-pandemic-timeline.html

Is there a difference between Public Health emergency, date April 26,2009 and National emergency, Oct 24, 2009 Emergency? Seems like 6 months, unless there is another calendar being used....

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