Dr. Oz Wants Local Politicians To Decide If It's Ok For A Woman To Have An Abortion

Thanks, David. Lots of info there from what appears to be  reliable sources ( some of which from the CDC, looks like ).

     I have said it before, and was criticized for it, the majority of abortions are not done because of (1) rape, (2) incest, (3) mother's health or (4) etopic pregnancy - the majority of abortions are done because women become pregnant because they take no precautions when they spread their legs and copulate. This "my body' mantra is just an pathetic excuse they use whenever they don't want the responsibility of having to raise a child. These "mothers" are, in essence, murderers. This is the reality. Very few women become pregnant and do not know it. Most countries around the world allow abortions between 12 and 20 weeks of becomming pregnant. Any woman having an elective abortion after 20 weeks is, in my opinion, a murderer. I am sure that some will disagree with me, but dismembering and killing a child in the womb is murder.

Our current practices are built on protectionism, racism, and paranoia. I personally don't care, and I doubt most Americans do, whether that person picking fruit or making hotel beds is an ILLEEEEGULL. So fucking what? They're not hurting anybody. (And this is where a conservitard posts some lurid story about an illegal immigrant murdering 47 people.) The reality is that the "open borders" policy, which is decried by conservitards even though it's never existed, would be a good thing. Like the EU, we'd save billions of dollars yearly. How much money do we blow on border controls now? How much money does our racist, jingoistic trade policy cost us? You want to yeep about inflation, how about acknowledging that inspections and controls add 3 to 5 percent to the cost of imported goods? Racism and bigotry cost money.

Abortion isn't the number one issue because it directly affects considerably less than half the population. However, SCOTUS's decision that the Fourteenth Amendment doesn't count endangers all of us, as does their decision that the states can decide if human rights exist or not.

So your gang gets a "stupid" for its border stance and a "fascist" for its abortion stance. Fundamentally wrong, in both senses of the word. You should be ashamed, and I sense that on some level, you are.

David,

Yet, you support Herschel Walker a man that "murdered" his own babies by your definition. 

It doesn't really matter than not all abortions are for rape, incest and medical conditions. If you read about some of these cases under these new laws women are being subjected to state mandated torture. They are forced to carry non-viable fetuses until their chance of death hits 50 percent or some other arbitrary number. 

Yes, some women do become pregnant and don't know it until after 12 weeks.  Furthermore, a lot of red states have 6 week bans meaning just one week after a missed period when a lot of women don't know they are pregnant. West Virginia has a zero week abortion ban. Indiana also has a zero week abortion ban although it is tied up in court right now.

And those other countries you mentioned have numerous exceptions to their time limits includluing things like not being financially able to take care of a child or being under a lot of stress. 

So you would be ok if the government mandated that all men over 50 have their balls cut off to help eliminate unwanted pregnancies? According to you, your body your choice is simply an excuse.

  If there was a mandate concerning men getting their balls cut off, the men would still be alive. As far as Walker is concerned, at the time the "supposed" abortions that he is accused of having these women have, if true, they had to be done during the 20 week window for abortions - because Georgia did not allow any abortions to be done after 20 weeks. Georgia has now stiffined the abortion restriction to 6 weeks. 

But it is still murder according to you so you support a murderer. As far as  proof, the lady has a copy of his check and a get well card. Walker's initial denial stated he didn't know the woman. Then it turned out he had a child with her. Walker was caught red-handed lying about the issue. If that isn't proof, there is no amount of proof that would satisfy you. 

Like most conservatives you are a hypocrite on this issue. The conservative motto is abortions for me not for thee.

  "If there was a mandate concerning men getting their balls cut off, the men would still be alive."

To be clear, you are saying you would support a government mandate that men get their balls cut off because they would still be alive?

You hear that Tom, Charles and Boiler? David would support the government mandating you get your balls cut off. I am sure we could hold a fundraiser here to pay for that procedure for all four of you so you could show your commitment to your cause.

    It is obvious that you don't have the mental acumen to comprehend what I meant. Therefore, I will simplify it for you;  Abortions kill - getting one's balls cut off does not kill. Comprehende?

When I want definitive information about abortion, I always go to abort73.com!!!! It's the gold standard!

I'm voting my conscience..you do the same. Direct your insults at someone else where it might make a difference for you and your causes. All these arguments in here about issues are endless and not one soul has been swayed ( that I'm aware of)..it's just an exercise in reciprocal bleating...much like the country as a whole presently. What's the point when everybody is keenly aware of the other sides unmoving position/s and further debate just enhances the divide? Maybe it's marketable..like TV news. Maybe there's commissions involved?

Christ..go vote and accept the outcome/s. Or not.

And nothing is a crime--or morally wrong--as long as the victim remains alive?

I agree that David wouldn't be affected by having his balls cut off.