FDA, CDC, Johnson and Johnson vaccine and what's happening

Originally posted by: MisterPicture

Kevin, if you respond to every possible Biden misfire with, "but he's better than Trump," this could get tedious.


Though my brain cells have been declared weak (undisuputed by me), I congratulate MisterPicture for the perfect word describing these interminable "I'm right, you're wrong" debates---tedious.

 

Some can't ignore the bait.

 

Candy

Yes, many conservitards, RepubliQs, and Trumpers can't resist criticizing any action taken by Biden, simply because...it was an action taken by Biden. Remember how the Republiholes spent eight years criticizing and trying to stop every single thing Obama did? I got very tired of hearing all those fabricated excuses about how THEM DEMMURKATS IS TRYIN' TO DESTROY THIS HERE COUNTRY SOOOOOOOCIALISM hyuk hyuk hyuk.

 

Reflexive, unthinking conservative opposition to every single piece of social improvement legislation is tedious, indeed. So are the RepubliQ conspiracy theories about vaccines.

Edited on Apr 22, 2021 1:13pm
Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Yes, many conservitards, RepubliQs, and Trumpers can't resist criticizing any action taken by Biden, simply because...it was an action taken by Biden. Remember how the Republiholes spent eight years criticizing and trying to stop every single thing Obama did? I got very tired of hearing all those fabricated excuses about how THEM DEMMURKATS IS TRYIN' TO DESTROY THIS HERE COUNTRY SOOOOOOOCIALISM hyuk hyuk hyuk.

 

Reflexive, unthinking conservative opposition to every single piece of social improvement legislation is tedious, indeed. So are the RepubliQ consoiracy theories about vaccines.


Wow.  Pot/kettle. 

 

I wasn't referring to any one person/political preference in particular (well, maybe a little).

 

But all have the right to express.  Gets...TEDIOUS...though, after so many silly back and forth nya nyas.

 

Candy

Originally posted by: O2bnVegas

Wow.  Pot/kettle. 

 

I wasn't referring to any one person/political preference in particular (well, maybe a little).

 

But all have the right to express.  Gets...TEDIOUS...though, after so many silly back and forth nya nyas.

 

Candy


Nope. Doesn't apply. I don't oppose every single Republican idea or piece of legislation simply because it's Republican. The tedium in political discourse is the repetitive, reflexive antagonism expressed, yes, by both sides.

 

What I find...well, tedious, is that Republicans are now in opposition to things they have actually professed to want for decades, just because it's Biden who's proposing them.


Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Nope. Doesn't apply. I don't oppose every single Republican idea or piece of legislation simply because it's Republican. The tedium in political discourse is the repetitive, reflexive antagonism expressed, yes, by both sides.

 

What I find...well, tedious, is that Republicans are now in opposition to things they have actually professed to want for decades, just because it's Biden who's proposing them.


What are Republicans against now that they were not in the past?

Originally posted by: Boilerman

What are Republicans against now that they were not in the past?


Infrastructure improvements. And yeah yeah yeah, I know the mantra is that Biden's bill contains things they don't consider infrastructure, and/or things they object to. That's all smoke and mirrors. They don't want it because Biden does want it. That's the beginning and the end of it.

 

Only a nasty old white man who grew up in the 1950s would consider high-speed broadband internet to not be infrastructure, because, uh, you can't drive a truck on it. And as far as stuff being in the bill that's not infrastructure per se--well, that's what you do when you're on the winning side, as Moscow Mitch reminded us so many times during the Trump Horror. You push through legislative priorities, and the RepubliQ calls it "the liberal agenda," as though they didn't have one themselves.

 

There's a major practical consideration, too---despite literally decades of bleating for infrastructure improvements, it's a certainty that no RepubliQs will vote for this. So it would have to go through budget reconciliation to be filibuster-proof, and there's only so many times that can be done in a given year (the recent ruling of the parliamentarian makes it somewhat easier). So it's "go big or go home." That's just the way things work in Washington, and if the RepubliQs don't like it when the shoe is on the other foot, they have only themselves to blame.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Infrastructure improvements. And yeah yeah yeah, I know the mantra is that Biden's bill contains things they don't consider infrastructure, and/or things they object to. That's all smoke and mirrors. They don't want it because Biden does want it. That's the beginning and the end of it.

 

Only a nasty old white man who grew up in the 1950s would consider high-speed broadband internet to not be infrastructure, because, uh, you can't drive a truck on it. And as far as stuff being in the bill that's not infrastructure per se--well, that's what you do when you're on the winning side, as Moscow Mitch reminded us so many times during the Trump Horror. You push through legislative priorities, and the RepubliQ calls it "the liberal agenda," as though they didn't have one themselves.

 

There's a major practical consideration, too---despite literally decades of bleating for infrastructure improvements, it's a certainty that no RepubliQs will vote for this. So it would have to go through budget reconciliation to be filibuster-proof, and there's only so many times that can be done in a given year (the recent ruling of the parliamentarian makes it somewhat easier). So it's "go big or go home." That's just the way things work in Washington, and if the RepubliQs don't like it when the shoe is on the other foot, they have only themselves to blame.


I've many times posted on this site that the argument for spending a shit load of money on infrastructure is bull shit.  For the past 60 years I've been told that if we don't spend a ton of money, that our bridges will fall.  We didn't spend a shit ton of money and our bridges didn't fall.

 

Next.

 

Is it narcissists or psychopaths who always need to have the last word?   Someone remind as I forgot.

Originally posted by: Boilerman

I've many times posted on this site that the argument for spending a shit load of money on infrastructure is bull shit.  For the past 60 years I've been told that if we don't spend a ton of money, that our bridges will fall.  We didn't spend a shit ton of money and our bridges didn't fall.

 

Next.

 


We probably shouldn't wait until they start actually collapsing, and in any event, bridges are only a very small part of our nation's infrastructure.

 

Anyone saying that our infrastructure isn't in serious need of repair and upgrade has his head in the sand, or up his butt.

Originally posted by: jphelan

Is it narcissists or psychopaths who always need to have the last word?   Someone remind as I forgot.


I don't know. What was your diagnosis?

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