On this forum tom, Boilerman, and CharlesIII all said the IRA bill caused inflation when, in fact, inflation dropped almost every month after the act was passed. They weren't the only ones; many more random posters said the same thing.
What items in this bill reduced inflation or was it just coincidence?
Trump was the primary catalyst for the attack on the Capitol, with his cronies helping him to put his plan into action.
Proof?
Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW
Citation please.
I saw videos of his speeches that were recorded in the months before he was killed. Those were posted by third parties who supported him. The things he said were very much the same. His core message was pursuing and eliminating various and sundry marginalized groups. Specifically in the weeks leading up to his killing, he turned up the heat on transgender people. He called for their "elimination" and "eradication." That apparently is what provoked his former worshipler to kill him.
In the days following the shooting, all the Utah news outlets played clips from his hate rallies. However, they left out the most vitriolic parts. Very soon after, it was hard to find any of his speeches online. I suspect that those in Utah who criticize Republicans don't last long.
I'll take a look and see if I can find anything still online
Originally posted by: tom
"The AP found that more than 120 defendants across the United States have pleaded guilty or were convicted at trial of federal crimes including rioting, arson and conspiracy.
Now for the facts. With billions in damages and hundreds of police injured, only 120 convictions is laughable.
By June 22, 2020, police had made 14,000 arrests in 49 cities since the protests began, with most arrests being locals charged with low-level offenses such as violating curfews or blocking roadways. By June 8, 2020, at least 19 people had died during the protests. Several protests over Floyd's murder, including one in Chicago, turned into riots.
Pretty simple, laughing man. Not all of the crimes were federal crimes; the feds didn't have the jurisdiction to prosecute.
The genius MAGA folks attacked a federal building in daylight, some wearing clothing from companies they worked for or owned. There were cameras everywhere, and all of them were recording everything that happened. Some of the geniuses sent pictures to friends and family or posted them on Facebook.
The MAGA idiots made it easy for the DOJ to gather evidence and convict them. If you rob a bank, don't post it on Facebook.
Now that's worth laughing about!
Originally posted by: tom
On this forum tom, Boilerman, and CharlesIII all said the IRA bill caused inflation when, in fact, inflation dropped almost every month after the act was passed. They weren't the only ones; many more random posters said the same thing.
What items in this bill reduced inflation or was it just coincidence?
Trump was the primary catalyst for the attack on the Capitol, with his cronies helping him to put his plan into action.
Proof?
As I've said before, nothing in the bill reduced inflation; I've never claimed it did. You three specifically said the IRA increased inflation even after a couple of years had passed. The data shows it did not, readily available data was there when the assertions were made again.
You said it did when you could have looked at a graph of monthly inflation and saw it did not.
The only reason anyone was there that day was that Trump held a rally and told them to come. That simple statement is all that needs to be said.
Although there is a lot more "proof," I'm off to shop for electric bikes and try a pizza place that was ranked as one of the top 100 in the world by an Italian publication. So I'm not going to spend any time or energy on it for you.
At least 90 percent of charges against Black Lives Matter protesters in a dozen jurisdictions have been dropped, dismissed or not filed, according to an analysis by The Guardian
Billions in damages, hundreds of police injured and no consequences.
Here is a local story at Columbia U.
Columbia janitors Mario Torres and Lester Wilson were held hostage by over 40 Columbia students and “outside agitators,” some but not all of whom were arrested by police following the takeover of Columbia’s Hamilton Hall last April 29, “terrorized” both Torres and Wilson “into the early morning of April 30th, assaulted and battered them, held them against their will, and derided them as ‘Jew-lovers’ and ‘Zionists.’ ”
Over 40 protesters, including Carlson, were arrested and charged with trespassing in the days after the Hamilton Hall occupation. But Manhattan district attorney Alvin Bragg’s office dropped the charges
Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis
I saw videos of his speeches that were recorded in the months before he was killed. Those were posted by third parties who supported him. The things he said were very much the same. His core message was pursuing and eliminating various and sundry marginalized groups. Specifically in the weeks leading up to his killing, he turned up the heat on transgender people. He called for their "elimination" and "eradication." That apparently is what provoked his former worshipler to kill him.
In the days following the shooting, all the Utah news outlets played clips from his hate rallies. However, they left out the most vitriolic parts. Very soon after, it was hard to find any of his speeches online. I suspect that those in Utah who criticize Republicans don't last long.
I'll take a look and see if I can find anything still online
I admittedly never watched much of his speeches because I didn't like his "debate" style.
He would mostly "debate" ill prepared students and he would often flip the burden of proof. He would state a claim and then demand someone prove that claim false.
In a proper debate, when one asserts a claim, they have the burden of proof and must demonstrate the claim.
If he said the things you allege, wouldn't that technically be an indirect threat though? Not a direct threat?
I don't think the killer has a moral or a lawful defense claim.
Originally posted by: tom
At least 90 percent of charges against Black Lives Matter protesters in a dozen jurisdictions have been dropped, dismissed or not filed, according to an analysis by The Guardian
Billions in damages, hundreds of police injured and no consequences.
Here is a local story at Columbia U.
Columbia janitors Mario Torres and Lester Wilson were held hostage by over 40 Columbia students and “outside agitators,” some but not all of whom were arrested by police following the takeover of Columbia’s Hamilton Hall last April 29, “terrorized” both Torres and Wilson “into the early morning of April 30th, assaulted and battered them, held them against their will, and derided them as ‘Jew-lovers’ and ‘Zionists.’ ”
Over 40 protesters, including Carlson, were arrested and charged with trespassing in the days after the Hamilton Hall occupation. But Manhattan district attorney Alvin Bragg’s office dropped the charges
You have absolutely no proof of those "billions in damages" OR "hundreds of police injured," so stop lying and prattling.
Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW
I admittedly never watched much of his speeches because I didn't like his "debate" style.
He would mostly "debate" ill prepared students and he would often flip the burden of proof. He would state a claim and then demand someone prove that claim false.
In a proper debate, when one asserts a claim, they have the burden of proof and must demonstrate the claim.
If he said the things you allege, wouldn't that technically be an indirect threat though? Not a direct threat?
I don't think the killer has a moral or a lawful defense claim.
I never said that there was any legal or moral justification. I certainly remember that when I said that Kirk's death was a consequence of his hate speech, and not hard to anticipate at that, all the MAGA lice swarmed on me and said that I was endorsing Kirk's killing. I said no such thing. I simply observed that if you advocate, loudly and in public, repeatedly, for the death and eradication of a person or group of persons, the danger exists that someone will take you seriously enough to defend themselves or their loved ones, and that defense may be violent or even lethal.
I recommend you do a Google search on some term like "Charlie Kirk transgender hate speech." Plenty of stuff to watch. I didn't find him using the precise words "exterminate" or "eradicate," but he was sure as hell advocating for precisely that. It's not like he was mincing his words.
I would have watched more, but frankly, I find his speech/debate style and tactics repulsive, interrupting his opponents, making ad hominem attacks, and constantly trying to shift the burden of proof away from himself. It was the style of an asshole, and quite frankly made me wonder if he had watched Trump debate performances to train himself.
I'm certainly, unequivocally, absolutely happy that he's dead, much as I will be when Trump dies. And if anyone should be "eradicated" or "exterminated," it's the young men who listened to and cheered his rhetoric and adopted his philosophy. Utah Hitler Youth.
I don't want to segue to "karma," because I'm not about to say that Kirk got what he deserved. For one thing, the world doesn't work that way. But that said, actions do have consequences. Kirk shouting about how half the world should be wiped off the map was like Bruce Willis's character in that third Die Hard movie stripping to his shorts and wearing a signboard that said, "I HATE NIGGERS." Would anyone have been justified in killing him? No. Would it have been exactly unexpected if someone had? No.
Originally posted by: tom
At least 90 percent of charges against Black Lives Matter protesters in a dozen jurisdictions have been dropped, dismissed or not filed, according to an analysis by The Guardian
Billions in damages, hundreds of police injured and no consequences.
Here is a local story at Columbia U.
Columbia janitors Mario Torres and Lester Wilson were held hostage by over 40 Columbia students and “outside agitators,” some but not all of whom were arrested by police following the takeover of Columbia’s Hamilton Hall last April 29, “terrorized” both Torres and Wilson “into the early morning of April 30th, assaulted and battered them, held them against their will, and derided them as ‘Jew-lovers’ and ‘Zionists.’ ”
Over 40 protesters, including Carlson, were arrested and charged with trespassing in the days after the Hamilton Hall occupation. But Manhattan district attorney Alvin Bragg’s office dropped the charges
I'm not interested in trading news stories with you, what prompted my original response was your parroted MAGA assertion:
There were no murders on Jan 6th
There were no convictions in the 2021 riots where police were injured and billions in damages.
That's untrue; there were, whether you think there were enough, that's your deal.
