Gee, Vance failed

Originally posted by: tom

The IEAE said iran constantly violated the deal.


The IEAE reports that were made BEFORE Trump pulled out of the deal stated that Iran was in compliance. The reports about the violations didn't happen until AFTER Trump pulled out of the deal. Iran was in compliance until the deal was cancelled by the U.S. Government. 

Tulsi Gabbard, under oath and in written testimony to Congress, said that Iran was not rebuilding its uranium enrichment program. 

 

Gabbard Says Iran Did Not Rebuild Nuclear Program After 2025 Strikes | Time 

 

 

"Iran did not rebuild its uranium enrichment capability following joint U.S.-Israeli strikes against its nuclear program last year, U.S. Director of National Intelligence (DNI) Tulsi Gabbard told a Senate Intelligence Committee hearing on Wednesday.

 

"As a result of Operation Midnight Hammer, Iran’s nuclear enrichment program was obliterated. There has been no efforts since then to try to rebuild their enrichment capability. The entrances to the underground facilities that were bombed have been buried and shuttered with cement," Gabard wrote in an opening statement ahead of the hearing."

 

Gabbard was testifying under oath, and Trump decided to spout off, like he tends to do.

 

Trump’s intel chief Tulsi Gabbard is ‘off-message’ and out of favor, sources tell CNN | CNN Politics

 

“I don’t care what she said,” Trump replied. “I think they were very close to having it.”

 

Thinking people tend to believe written testimony; others, well, whatever matches their preferred worldview.

Edited on Apr 12, 2026 1:12pm

That's why I have no respect for stupid Tom. While the shit he barfs up is usually not technically false, it's always misleading, inaccurate, lacking context, or biased toward MAGA and his Trump-love. Like his constant "Inflation was 8% under Biden" bleat. Technically true, but obviously lacking context. And he knows that, stupid as he is.

 

Stupid Tom.

Originally posted by: MaxFlavor

Tulsi Gabbard, under oath and in written testimony to Congress, said that Iran was not rebuilding its uranium enrichment program. 

 

Gabbard Says Iran Did Not Rebuild Nuclear Program After 2025 Strikes | Time 

 

 

"Iran did not rebuild its uranium enrichment capability following joint U.S.-Israeli strikes against its nuclear program last year, U.S. Director of National Intelligence (DNI) Tulsi Gabbard told a Senate Intelligence Committee hearing on Wednesday.

 

"As a result of Operation Midnight Hammer, Iran’s nuclear enrichment program was obliterated. There has been no efforts since then to try to rebuild their enrichment capability. The entrances to the underground facilities that were bombed have been buried and shuttered with cement," Gabard wrote in an opening statement ahead of the hearing."

 

Gabbard was testifying under oath, and Trump decided to spout off, like he tends to do.

 

Trump’s intel chief Tulsi Gabbard is ‘off-message’ and out of favor, sources tell CNN | CNN Politics

 

“I don’t care what she said,” Trump replied. “I think they were very close to having it.”

 

Thinking people tend to believe written testimony; others, well, whatever matches their preferred worldview.


This illustrates how Trump is willing to throw even his most loyal, subservient lackeys under the bus.

 

One consequence of this realization is that Republican officeholders nationwide are retiring/saying they won't run for reelection. They know that their past Trump fealty is now a liability.

 

I think it's absolutely hilarious how "the message" had to shift from "we totally obliterated their nuclear program" (bigly success!) to "they will have photon torpedoes tomorrow* to justify Trump's war.


Their nuclear program has been completely obliterated and they are currently only weeks away from having a nuclear weapon.

 

Classic Orwellian double think. 

 

 

Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW

Their nuclear program has been completely obliterated and they are currently only weeks away from having a nuclear weapon.

 

Classic Orwellian double think. 

 

 


I like that parallel. To use the urgent necessity to destroy something that you've just claimed to have destroyed is iconic Big Brother, and iconic Trump as well.

 

It's amazing that so many people still believe his shit, but then, many citizens of Oceania truly loved and trusted Big Brother.

Folks - the cat is already out of the bag.  There was no "immediate threat" of Iran getting nukes or striking US targets.   Thats 100% bullshit.    His insiders are already spilling the beans.     

 

If you think the long term problem of Iran and nukes needs to be pursued there is a right way to do it:   Build a coalition of allies.   Make the case to Congress and the people so they are both on board.   Exhaust all diplomatic efforts before engaging in military.    

 

Trump did none of that.     He thought it was going to be Venezeuala part 2.    It wasnt.   Now he's in a world of shit that he UNILATERALLY got America into....and he wants all the countries he DID NOT COORDINATE with to bail him out.     

 

 

 

It so dishonors our country that we're acting as the global bully and using force as our go-to approach. And it's always been some crusade to stop the Boogeymen, whether the commies or Saddam or the Taliban or the Ayatollah. 

 

We should be better than that. I remember a time when we were actually fostering peace and global cooperation. Then Obama's second term ended...

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