Hunter Biden Agrees To Plead Guilty To Two Misdemeanors

The outcome is what it is. For you liberals, can you tell us why it required almost  6 years to indict and charge HB with two misdemeanors ( from the time the initial evidence was gathered)? What was going on there besides classic stonewalling by the DOJ and FBI?

Originally posted by: Charles Higgins

The outcome is what it is. For you liberals, can you tell us why it required almost  6 years to indict and charge HB with two misdemeanors ( from the time the initial evidence was gathered)? What was going on there besides classic stonewalling by the DOJ and FBI?


Do we really have to explain that to you? These charges, and the evidence supporting them, were small beer, which is why not a great deal of resources were directed toward the case. I know that conservitards Fox News Trumpers the Deep State yada yada yada yada yada belch grunt snort wanted to depict Hunter as worse than Hitler, Jeffrey Dahmer, Pol Pot, and Timothy McVey combined, but the reality is that he's basically a harmless fuckup.

 

You can paste a "stonewalling" label on this if you like, but there was a LOT more scrutiny and investigation than there would normally have been for a misdemeanor tax fraud case. And why did it take so long? Because the DOJ/FBI knew that if they didn't dot every i and cross every t, which of course means going very slowly and painstakingly, the conservitard gang and their media lackeys would be all over them like a pack of rabid jackals.

 

In other words, in case I haven't gotten through to you, the long time needed for the resolution of this case has been due to the intense scrutiny that the RepubliQ gang has been yeeping for all along. If they had made an immediate decision after a routine investigation--which is all this case actually merited--there would have been the same hue and cry that Hunter was receiving favorable treatment for not being charged with murder, arson, treason, rape, and littering. It would have been even louder, though.

 

Capiche?

Charles, you are asking the wrong question but I will answer it anyway.  It is important to point out a Trump appointed prosecutor began the investigation roughly two years into the Trump adminstration.  We know Trump only hires the best people so incompetence isn't the issue.

 

I suspect the reason it took so long was Republicans keep throwing wild false accusations out about Hunter being some sort of criminal mastermind and all that nonsense had to be investigated.  This prosecutor wanted to find something Hunter did wrong because he is a Republican appointed by Trump but in the end all he found were two misdemeanors.  The fact is Hunter is just a sad drug addict not a criminal mastermind.

 

 

The question you should be asking yourself is why did so many Republican politicians and the conservative media lie to you for the last six years making wild accusations that there was no evidence to support?  They made a fool of you.  

 

 

 

Edited on Jun 21, 2023 3:18am
Originally posted by: Charles Higgins

The outcome is what it is. For you liberals, can you tell us why it required almost  6 years to indict and charge HB with two misdemeanors ( from the time the initial evidence was gathered)? What was going on there besides classic stonewalling by the DOJ and FBI?


Explain to me what specific "classic stonewalling" occurred by the DOJ and FBI on behalf of Hunter Biden.  And considering the DOJ attorney was a Trump appointee shouldnt it be "you conservatives" who answer your question?    Why is everything always some secret liberal DaVinci COde cult working in the shadows?

 

You are on record being skepitcal of increased IRS funding and auditing by the government....but here you are complaining about the amount of time it took to find Hunter guilty of tax fraud.      Maybe the answer to your original question is to have more resources at the IRS so tax cheats like Hunter Biden can be identified and prosecuted more quickly.   I'm cool with that idea without delving into some DEEP STATE conspiracy about weaponization of the IRS      How about you?


I just watched an interview with a federal prosecutor who has prosected over 200 such cases....combined drug and gun violations.  He said that none, zero, nada such criminals did not receive time in federal prison.  The average being 2.5-3 years.

Originally posted by: tom

Weinberg went to jail for 5 months for similar charges, hunter gets a fine 

 

Trumo gets indicted for classified documents; Clinton, Berger & Biden get nothing. 

The list goes on

 

The democrats & the Biden's own the doj


Tom, let me suggest to you that you have let your political inclinations, your personal and moral investiture, and your emotions get the better of your rationality.  To wit:   No one in the 100 year history of the Espionage Act has been prosecuted for "inadvertent" mishandling of classified and secret government documents.  This includes Clinton, Pence, and Biden, and numerous others.  Willful mishandlings for personal reasons are investigated by the DOJ and often prosecuted.  To wit:  Sandy Burger (who was trying to protect his reputation) and General Petraeus (who wanted to impress his mistress who was writing a book) both were investigated and plead guilty to misdemeanors.  Trump is not in legal difficulty because of any documents he inadvertently or evenly intentionally took with him in retirement.  He is not charged for any documents he took and then voluntarily returned when asked; he is not charged even for those he returned under subpoena.   He is charged for willfully refusing to return government owned documents--both classified and otherwise--when ordered; and, more importantly, for obstructing the search and recovery of such documents.  He swore in an affidavit that there were no more documents, when there were; and, he allegedly moved documents to hide them from FBI and other government investigators.  I know emotionally that you want to rationalize that these charges are the same as Pence, Clinton, Biden.  They are simply not.  They are not even the same as Berger (with whom  you seem to have a real obsession) or Patraeus, a Democrat and a Republican.  When you throw all of these individual actions into one pot to rationalize your justification for Trump; when you allege that Democrats somehow "own the DOJ," all to justify Trump's actions, you sacrifice your own logic, rationality, and reputation.  I think you can be better than that.  

Boiler, yes, an interview on some conservative show were he is paid to tell conservatives what they want to hear. Here is the reality. If Hunter wouldn't have wanted to settle the case, there would have been no charges. It was political in a sense that it cut all the conservatives' balls off that kept spinning these ridiculous conspiracy theories.

 

That was obviously what they were going to run on in 2024. They were going to say, see Biden is just as bad as our guy that has been charged with over 100 felonies including espionage and has been found guilty for sexual assault by a jury. Note they had no evidence of any of this.  Now they can't claim that because Hunter has been cleared by a Trump prosecutor in a six year investigation of all that 🐴 shit. It is a brilliant political move by the Bidens as the Republicans have nothing to run on now.

 

The tax offenses would have never been won because the Biden's have high resources.  The case would have went on for years and would have been settled for 30 cents to 50 cents on the dollar with no admission of guilt.  The IRS doesn't have millions of dollars to spend on a tax case for a first time offender that wouldn't get any jail time even if convicted.

 

No compentent prosecutor would have brought that gun charge and that is why it was deferred. The charge was based upon filling out a Federal background check and answering no when you should have answered yes to do you use illegal drugs. Conservatives claimed that because his autobiography said he was an addict at the time he got that gun he should be charged.  Any compentent defense attorney could hit that out of the park.  The defense is so simple, "Yes, I wrote that because looking back it is obvious but at the time I filled out the form I didn't realize it yet." Most addicts and alcoholics go on for years without ever acknowledging to themselves that they have a problem.

 

As to the guns, keep in mind if the Federal Government were to actually prosecute these kinds of cases you would have somewhere in the neighborhood of 30 to 40 percent of gun owners illegally possessing guns right now because they checked no just like Hunter did.  For example any gun owner that smokes pot even in a state that has legalized it would have have to check yes because the Federal government still considers smoking pot in all 50 states illegal.  You would have to increase the DOJ's budget a hundred fold to round up, arrest and prosecute all those gun owners that smoke pot.

Edited on Jun 21, 2023 6:43am

There is no "combined drug and gun violations".   They are two seperate counts and have nothing to do with each other.

 

Roger Stone was convicted of the same tax crimes for which he (unlike Biden) was only charged civily.    

And regarding the gun charges....most people dont even get prosecuted let alone convicted of them.

 

" Current and former officials say tens of thousands of Americans, out of the 25 million who buy guns each year, lie on their forms and are not prosecuted."

 

But the far bigger point is ....whatever happened to the multi-million dollar crime ring that Boilerman asured us was landing?  Five years of digging up dirt and all you have is he didnt pay his taxes and lied on his firearm applications?    I havent felt so let down since you promised jail time for Hillary.

Edited on Jun 21, 2023 6:50am

                       

Originally posted by: Boilerman

I just watched an interview with a federal prosecutor who has prosected over 200 such cases....combined drug and gun violations.  He said that none, zero, nada such criminals did not receive time in federal prison.  The average being 2.5-3 years.


Gee, Boiler, this is where you tell us about one of your imaginary friends who assured you that no one convicted of misdemeanor tax fraud did not spend time in federal prison. Because people convicted of misdemeanors routinely get hauled off to federal maximum security. Don't get a parking ticket, Boiler. The RepubliQ era of law and order is here!!!

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