Boiler falls back on
the "I know a guy" defense. He "knows" lots of guys who just happen to agree with his political inclination--and usually have "large" houses, "lots of money", and are "very" intelligent.
Boiler falls back on
the "I know a guy" defense. He "knows" lots of guys who just happen to agree with his political inclination--and usually have "large" houses, "lots of money", and are "very" intelligent.
You liberal morons can crow all you want - everyone knows that the decision is wrong and we all know why it was structured the way it is. On the other hand, if this had of happened to a Republican, you liberals would be screaming bloody murder.
Originally posted by: Dealer1
Tom, let me suggest to you that you have let your political inclinations, your personal and moral investiture, and your emotions get the better of your rationality. To wit: No one in the 100 year history of the Espionage Act has been prosecuted for "inadvertent" mishandling of classified and secret government documents. This includes Clinton, Pence, and Biden, and numerous others. Willful mishandlings for personal reasons are investigated by the DOJ and often prosecuted. To wit: Sandy Burger (who was trying to protect his reputation) and General Petraeus (who wanted to impress his mistress who was writing a book) both were investigated and plead guilty to misdemeanors. Trump is not in legal difficulty because of any documents he inadvertently or evenly intentionally took with him in retirement. He is not charged for any documents he took and then voluntarily returned when asked; he is not charged even for those he returned under subpoena. He is charged for willfully refusing to return government owned documents--both classified and otherwise--when ordered; and, more importantly, for obstructing the search and recovery of such documents. He swore in an affidavit that there were no more documents, when there were; and, he allegedly moved documents to hide them from FBI and other government investigators. I know emotionally that you want to rationalize that these charges are the same as Pence, Clinton, Biden. They are simply not. They are not even the same as Berger (with whom you seem to have a real obsession) or Patraeus, a Democrat and a Republican. When you throw all of these individual actions into one pot to rationalize your justification for Trump; when you allege that Democrats somehow "own the DOJ," all to justify Trump's actions, you sacrifice your own logic, rationality, and reputation. I think you can be better than that.
Aside from the utter futility of getting Tom to recognize his own biases and irrationality...Trumpers and Biden-haters (either or both) have to abandon logic and view facts through a funhouse mirror kind of lens in order to think the way they do. I've heard some of the most ludicrous false equivalence arguments from Tom and all of the various mouthpieces he gets his "information" from. Really, what kind of crazy person views theft, fraud, rape, and treason as no big deal, but having a son who does drugs as a capital offense?
For the last 7+ years, I've watched these crowds of adoring goobers at Turd rallies and thought, "How can they possibly even stand this guy, let alone love and worship him?" The only answer I can come up with if that they have to pile rationalization upon rationalization to avoid facing the truth, and those rationalizations get more and more absurd, because they have to. "Jesus, I VOTED for this guy??" they think, and then, rather than say, "Yeah, I did something really, really stupid." they cook up some reason why "He's not such a bad guy, the liberal media blah blah" and presto! back down the rabbit hole.
Trump is an irredeemably horrible, evil and selfish man. Biden is a good man trying to do good things in the most difficult job in the world. Anyone with the most basic understanding of moral character can see those things. Even Tom.
Sorry, my liberal friends. I disagree about the overall length of time it actually required to charge / indict HB with two misdemeanors. To me, there was some hair in that entire salad ( I won't deny the R hype element in some respects). In the end, it all reverts back to a fair, equal, and just DOJ/FBI investigative and prosecutorial approach between sides. Still on the conservative side of the fence..no apologies. *l*
Originally posted by: David Miller
You liberal morons can crow all you want - everyone knows that the decision is wrong and we all know why it was structured the way it is. On the other hand, if this had of happened to a Republican, you liberals would be screaming bloody murder.
The federal prosecutor was appointed by Trump, Biden kept him on, Garland told him to proceed at his own discretion. But, you did spell moron correctly.
Originally posted by: Charles Higgins
Sorry, my liberal friends. I disagree about the overall length of time it actually required to charge / indict HB with two misdemeanors. To me, there was some hair in that entire salad ( I won't deny the R hype element in some respects). In the end, it all reverts back to a fair, equal, and just DOJ/FBI investigative and prosecutorial approach between sides. Still on the conservative side of the fence..no apologies. *l*
The fact that you keep referring to "liberals" when this case has absolutely nothing to do with our or anyone else's ideological bent betrays your own bias.
You want to do classic backwards logic: come to a conclusion that you desire and then cast around for "facts" to support that conclusion. Hunter Biden isn't being boiled alive. THEREFORE, you think, there must have been bias. Now I'll try to prove it. How do I know there was bias? Because Hunter Biden wasn't boiled alive! SEE????? And 'round and 'round we go!
And just let me throw in a tidbit about my own tax misdemeanor experiences: in 2019, I received a notice from the IRS that there was an error on my 2012 return and I owed $125 plus penalties and interest. I was told I had 90 days to pay up or I would be charged with misdemeanor tax evasion. Obviously, Charles, that it took seven years for them to get around to this shows liberal bias on their part!!!!! (I paid up.)
Kevin..No. You're telling me your own bias isn't involved here? Heh..whatever you think, Betty..or is it Margaret? Round and round is right..it's never - ending; in here and in DC.
Originally posted by: Dealer1
The federal prosecutor was appointed by Trump, Biden kept him on, Garland told him to proceed at his own discretion. But, you did spell moron correctly.
In reference to the spelling of the word "moron" - I just spelled the word as it was spelled in the original post. Look at the post and you will see that is what I did. Here is the original post with the spelling shown in the post -- https://www.facebook.com/reel/829681515445736
Originally posted by: Charles Higgins
Kevin..No. You're telling me your own bias isn't involved here? Heh..whatever you think, Betty..or is it Margaret? Round and round is right..it's never - ending; in here and in DC.
What you have to consider is the delay may have been intentional. Say the Trump AG though it was beneficial to the Republican party to drag it out past the election. That way the Jim Jordans of the House and the conservative media could continue to spin conspiracy theories. Then when asked for proof, they could simply say there is an open FBI investigation. Hunter got a new aggressive attorney not so long ago and he could have forced the AGs hand by offering his client's plea.
I note the Durham investigation lasted three and a half years and resulted in nothing despite conservative claims and hype for the duration of the investigation that when it was finished it was going to uncover a vast left wing conspiracy to get Trump.
Originally posted by: Charles Higgins
Sorry, my liberal friends. I disagree about the overall length of time it actually required to charge / indict HB with two misdemeanors. To me, there was some hair in that entire salad ( I won't deny the R hype element in some respects). In the end, it all reverts back to a fair, equal, and just DOJ/FBI investigative and prosecutorial approach between sides. Still on the conservative side of the fence..no apologies. *l*
Why is a 6 year investigation and 6 years of legal fees, court dates, legal interviews and scheduling somehow to the benefit of the defendant? Nevermind the 6 years of mouth breathers on cable news (and Las Vegas Message Boards) citing unfounded conspiracy theories smearing his reputation. I thought a speedy trial was something that made our justice system better than 3rd world countries. But you claim Hunter wanted six years of his life torn up by his slap-on-wrist offenses.
Nevermind Charles cant give us any evidence of the special treatment he suspects started with Trump's Justice Dept and ended with Trump's appointed attorney....he cant even give a rational, sane motive for why Hunter would want it..
But its a free country, Charles, you're alloweed to believe whatever version of crazy you like. Aint America great?
