Hunter Biden Agrees To Plead Guilty To Two Misdemeanors

Originally posted by: Charles Higgins

Kevin..No. You're telling me your own bias isn't involved here? Heh..whatever you think, Betty..or is it Margaret? Round and round is right..it's never - ending; in here and in DC.


What you have to consider is the delay may have been intentional. Say the Trump AG though it was beneficial to the Republican party to drag it out past the election. That way the Jim Jordans of the House and the conservative media could continue to spin conspiracy theories.  Then when asked for proof, they could simply say there is an open FBI investigation. Hunter got a new aggressive attorney not so long ago and he could have forced the AGs hand by offering his client's plea.   

 

 

I note the Durham investigation lasted three and a half years and resulted in nothing despite conservative claims and hype for the duration of the investigation that when it was finished it was going to uncover a vast left wing conspiracy to get Trump.

 

Originally posted by: Charles Higgins

Kevin..No. You're telling me your own bias isn't involved here? Heh..whatever you think, Betty..or is it Margaret? Round and round is right..it's never - ending; in here and in DC.


""Involved"? How? Because I'm not puffed up in outrage over the length of time it took to prosecute a minor tax evasion case? Given your disproportionately intense outrage, I could accuse you of the same bias.. and much more credibly, at that.

 

And lest you think I harbor some love for Hunter--quite the opposite. I think he's a dumb fuckup who should, but doesn't, keep his head down in order to avoid embarrassing his father.

 

Tell me true, O Charles. Do you think this case would receive the same zeal and scrutiny if Hunter was Joe Schmo's son--an ordinary schlep? And if your answer to that question is honest, my reply is: well, isn't THAT ipso facto bias??

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

Why is a 6 year investigation and 6 years of legal fees,  court dates,  legal interviews and scheduling somehow to the benefit of the defendant?  Nevermind the 6 years of mouth breathers on cable news (and Las Vegas Message Boards) citing unfounded conspiracy theories smearing his reputation.    I thought a speedy trial was something that made our justice system better than 3rd world countries.    But you claim Hunter wanted six years of his life torn up by his slap-on-wrist offenses.

 

Nevermind Charles cant give us any evidence of the special treatment he suspects started with Trump's Justice Dept and ended with Trump's appointed attorney....he cant even give a rational, sane motive for why Hunter would want it..   

 

But its a free country, Charles, you're alloweed to believe whatever version of crazy you like.   Aint America great?


I didn't make anywhere near half the claims you said I did, PJ. You, from a typical reactionary standpoint, may have thought I implied some of those things..but I didn't make them outright. I'm well aware of the prosecuting attorney's allegiance from the outset of this debacle. HB is a classic example of human frailty in action..and it's pretty easy to cast the first stone and render judgement. Occasionally, when we're inclined to pass judgement on anyone, it's probably prudent to look in a mirror now and then ie.."How have I fucked up lately?".

 

You firmly believe the FBI and DOJ are unbiased in their approaches to investigations and prosecutions during the last 10 years. I just flat disagree with you. And yeah, that's partly why this country is still great.

Originally posted by: Charles Higgins

I didn't make anywhere near half the claims you said I did, PJ. You, from a typical reactionary standpoint, may have thought I implied some of those things..but I didn't make them outright. I'm well aware of the prosecuting attorney's allegiance from the outset of this debacle. HB is a classic example of human frailty in action..and it's pretty easy to cast the first stone and render judgement. Occasionally, when we're inclined to pass judgement on anyone, it's probably prudent to look in a mirror now and then ie.."How have I fucked up lately?".

 

You firmly believe the FBI and DOJ are unbiased in their approaches to investigations and prosecutions during the last 10 years. I just flat disagree with you. And yeah, that's partly why this country is still great.


Charles, the belief you just accused PJ of holding is a fairly dumb reductio ad absurdum argument. Cleanse your mind of that and get back to us if and when you do.


Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Charles, the belief you just accused PJ of holding is a fairly dumb reductio ad absurdum argument. Cleanse your mind of that and get back to us if and when you do.


Yeah, yeah..in Latinese,even..maybe pig latin. It's your go to phrasing of late...makes me think you sit around reading legal briefs for fun in your spare time. We've just ran headlong into the same ol wall again. Make your arguments at the ballot box..I disagree with you , too..the country is still great, ain't it?

 

And..green chile maintains digestive regularity..go have some. You sound as if you might need to take a good dump.

 

 

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

""Involved"? How? Because I'm not puffed up in outrage over the length of time it took to prosecute a minor tax evasion case? Given your disproportionately intense outrage, I could accuse you of the same bias.. and much more credibly, at that.

 

And lest you think I harbor some love for Hunter--quite the opposite. I think he's a dumb fuckup who should, but doesn't, keep his head down in order to avoid embarrassing his father.

 

Tell me true, O Charles. Do you think this case would receive the same zeal and scrutiny if Hunter was Joe Schmo's son--an ordinary schlep? And if your answer to that question is honest, my reply is: well, isn't THAT ipso facto bias??


His father does it all by himself on a daily basis btw......

Originally posted by: Charles Higgins

Yeah, yeah..in Latinese,even..maybe pig latin. It's your go to phrasing of late...makes me think you sit around reading legal briefs for fun in your spare time. We've just ran headlong into the same ol wall again. Make your arguments at the ballot box..I disagree with you , too..the country is still great, ain't it?

 

And..green chile maintains digestive regularity..go have some. You sound as if you might need to take a good dump.

 

 


Like Latin? Look up "ad hominem argument." How does how I feel--or how you feel--matter in assessing the fairness of the Hunter Biden case?

 

Jeez--and to think I originally regarded you as rational despite your loony-bird right-winger bent. Now, it appears that you've drunk the Kool-aid just like everyone else. You were more articulate and civil than the rest of the gang. Now, even that is fading fast. A shame.

 

I never get to the point of needing to take a dump when I talk about Trumpers. I retch it all up before I get a chance. But I agree about the value of green chile.*

 

*That stuff is grown by THEM FILTHY MESSKINS! Conservatives can't eat it!

Originally posted by: Charles Higgins

I didn't make anywhere near half the claims you said I did, PJ. You, from a typical reactionary standpoint, may have thought I implied some of those things..but I didn't make them outright. I'm well aware of the prosecuting attorney's allegiance from the outset of this debacle. HB is a classic example of human frailty in action..and it's pretty easy to cast the first stone and render judgement. Occasionally, when we're inclined to pass judgement on anyone, it's probably prudent to look in a mirror now and then ie.."How have I fucked up lately?".

 

You firmly believe the FBI and DOJ are unbiased in their approaches to investigations and prosecutions during the last 10 years. I just flat disagree with you. And yeah, that's partly why this country is still great.


Newsflash, Charles, lawyers are always biased.  They arent suppossed to be otherwise.    Thats why juries render verdict instead of prosecutors.   

 

But if your evidence free belief is that the Trump Justrce department and Trump attorney gave Hunter Biden special treatment because they sympathized with his politics?  Well thats pretty special.   

 

 

The two sides ARE biased..some lean left ( the majority in here) and some lean right ( me, for one). That's the truth, and our divergent analyses and positions on issues reflect that. Be honest and admit that's factual. There's just simply not much bend in our positions on most political issues..and that's historically and currently accurate for those who care to be honest about it. The current air / environment in this country ( and  in this forum) doesn't lend itself to extended bouts of reasonable debate. I don't care to engage in name calling and pre-ordained acts of superiority over anybody; we're all human and mistake-prone..and probably a bit overzealous with our judgements of others, often simply because they're members of a different political faction. I guess we'd have to define what a reasonable debate is, right? I'm not sure any offered definitions would be "unbiased" or 'equitable" in here..or anywhere. But, carry on.

 

Ya damned busload of old hippies ( immediately pleads guilty to that verbal misdemeanor)...

 

 

Originally posted by: Charles Higgins

The two sides ARE biased..some lean left ( the majority in here) and some lean right ( me, for one). That's the truth, and our divergent analyses and positions on issues reflect that. Be honest and admit that's factual. There's just simply not much bend in our positions on most political issues..and that's historically and currently accurate for those who care to be honest about it. The current air / environment in this country ( and  in this forum) doesn't lend itself to extended bouts of reasonable debate. I don't care to engage in name calling and pre-ordained acts of superiority over anybody; we're all human and mistake-prone..and probably a bit overzealous with our judgements of others, often simply because they're members of a different political faction. I guess we'd have to define what a reasonable debate is, right? I'm not sure any offered definitions would be "unbiased" or 'equitable" in here..or anywhere. But, carry on.

 

Ya damned busload of old hippies ( immediately pleads guilty to that verbal misdemeanor)...

 

 


Your widdle speechies have been about how the DOJ and FBI are OBVIOUSLY biased...because they didn't serve up Hunter's head on a plate. And of course, if we dare to say that the outcome was fair...obviously, we're saying that because we're biased. A circular argument, Charles. And I'll spare you the Latin phrase for that.

 

There is such a thing as objective reality. And "sides" don't have to figure in the proceedings of the justice system. But I'll tell you one thing that will doom that system's objectivity--when one "side" or the other accuses the system of bias simply because it produces an outcome they don't like. I don't like that Trump hasn't already been executed for treason, and conservitards don't like that the noble savior His Wonderfulness Trump-God is being persecuted by the Deep State in the worst witch hunt in the history of the galaxy.

 

So maybe the best compromise is, as they say, when both "sides" feel they've gotten screwed?

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