If a good vaccine is not found, how long are you willing to hide?

Boiler's numbers are likely very wrong especially if he lives in the suburban Indianapolis area. In my small county in the very southern part of the state, we have 53 cases out of a population of 20,327.  The county directly north of mine has 297 cases out of a population of 42,736. The country directly east of mine has 156 cases out of a population of 19,102.

The state of Indiana reported 748 new cases today which is the highest number of new cases this month.

Those are the official numbers.  From what I hear, they keep the nursing homes and other institutions out of the total until a family member or employee leaks the information forcing their hand.

My town is dependant on summer tourism. They opened the Amusement park in mid-June and then the connected water park over the July 4th weekend. The town is typically overrun with tourists on the weekends.  We have one full-service grocery store with 10 full-time employees and several part-time, mostly high school kids, employed there. 3 of those 10 full-time employees have tested positive since the amusement park opened up.  These tourists will crowd into all the local businesses with no masks wall to wall often giving their kids no supervision as they are typically running up and down the aisles screaming and bumping into people and touching everything. I am afraid it is not going to turn out well for us.

The local hospital keeps it on the down-low but they aren't accepting non-emergency surgery patients.

Our governor who had been doing a good job with COVID-19 suddenly got cowardly.  He said people really should wear masks but he wasn't going to mandate it. Oh, and our governor took our five-phase reopening plan and added a whole new phase.  It is called it 4.5 where more things are opening but they are still making restaurants and bars utilize social distancing.

I live in an area that also depends heavily on summer tourism. This county opened up sooner than the more populated areas of the state, largely for that reason. Oregon has a statewide mask mandate, but when I go to the grocery store, the locals are usually wearing masks but the tourons (tourist+moron) aren't. They act like children, regardless of their age. And the locals were demonstrating against the governor's lockdown order as soon as she issued it. You know, MAGA and death.

The local authorities have been treating our so-far low case and death numbers as if they somehow make us immune. The nearest decent-size hospital is a two-hour drive away (or a $3000 helicopter ride). This county is the second oldest in Oregon. When the virus finally hits us--and it will, oh, it will--it will cut through our elderly population like a scythe.

This town basically depends on squeezing tourists for four months out of the year and sitting around, trying to survive, for the other eight. The best thing for local businesses to do would have been to stay closed, collect whatever monetary relief was available, and keep everyone safe. For several weeks, the governor's lockdown orders extended to forbidding hotels from renting rooms--in an attempt to keep people from traveling here. But Republican agitators managed to disrupt that.

We're boned. It's just a matter of when it hits.

13 new cases in the past two weeks.

Proof please.

 I see by Mark's and Kevin's postings that things are getting worse for them where they live. What I did not see were condemnations for the "Leadership Matters" and the bashing of their respective states as the numbers increase - you know, like the way they bashed the President about leadership and the way they bashed other states for the increase in numbers of infections. They are learning first hand that leadership only goes so far, for people need to obey proven guidelines in order to combat the virus. People and "their rights" are the problem. As has been said,- "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make 'em drink"- this applies to the stupidity of people and their non compliance to safe guidelines. Hopefully whatever happens in the states where Mark and Kevin live the numbers of infections/deaths do not increase and the people there start and continue to act like adults and not like 'I have rights" liberals.

David, I believe that they are addressing total cases over the past 5 months within their counties.  I'm saying that there are 13 people who are currently sick with corona in my county of 170,000.  Those who were sick won't get others sick.

Mark mentioned that Indiana isn't accurately counting retirement home corona data.  The Indiana dashboard does show this data and it's updated every Monday.  This data is also counted in the statewide totals.

Mark is not noted for his truthfulness. His strength is in posting half truths and twisting of facts. Every day the "sky is falling" in his world of make believe.

Actually, as I've said many times, I live in one of the most conservative counties in the entire nation. People here have been acting like "I have rights" CONSERVATIVES. There have been demonstrations where the MAGA hat-wearing morons were waving signs saying that they won't wear a mask and the governor should be removed for restricting their "FREEDOM!"

People in the Democratic portions of Oregon have been obeying the guidelines and cases have been either rising slowly or not rising at all. People in the Republican portions of Oregon have been ignoring the guidelines, and cases have been sharply rising. In the county where I live, the spike has been fairly small so far--but for months, we had less than a dozen cases. Fortunately, so far, no deaths.

Oregon has had good leadership during the pandemic--the opposite of what has come out of Washington. Portland and other large cities locked down early and we've never had the massive outbreaks that other large cities have experiences. It's just sad that leadership has failed in the rural yahoo Trumper scum counties and things like social distancing and mask wearing aren't being enforced.

One thing that has saved Oregon is that most of the population is liberal and therefore has ignored Trump's idiotic pronouncements and behavior.

Insulting people who say things you don't want to hear doesn't make those things any less true. Try not to behave like a screaming baby all the time.

Kevin being Kevin-"Insulting people who say things you don't want to hear doesn't make those things any less true." -- So says the King of hatred, foul mouthings and insults.  You are such a tool...