If only Biden had approved the XL pipeline............

If only Biden had approved an the needed pipelines for gas and oil.  If only Biden had allowed refinery expansion........our gasoline prices would be substantially cheaper.  Our electricity bills would be a shit load less...........maybe 40%.

 

Nice job Liberals.  You can only hide from the idiots.  Luckily for you, there's a bunch of you guys.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-making-mistake-relying-foreign-144053694.html

 

Kevin, when will you talk with us about Lithium production?  He won't.

Edited on Jul 23, 2022 12:22pm

Is that the Virigin Island refinery that spit oil over the residences, local farmlands, and potable  water sources making thousands sick and destroying countless acres of farmland?    Yeah, Biden didnt allow that to expand.   Boilerman is free to buy a vacation home in one of the contaminated areas - I suspect he will get a good price.

 

And I loved the "opinion" article from the know-nothing opinion authors who claim Canadian tar sands transported from the proposed pipeline would lower US gas prices.    Anyone with a novice level of information about the oil industry know the tar sands can not be refined in US refineries which are designed for light sweet crude from fracking.    Almost all of the canadian tar sands would have to be shipped over seas  to refineries that can handle it.     And since the "opinion" authors are unaware of this elementary fact their opinion is worth about as much as a degree from Trump University

 

What else ya got?

 

 

PJ, I have zero issue with our government stopping an environmental mess.  I didn't see the Virgin Island refinery mentioned in the article, and neither did you.  Electric cars are a good thing and they will be a thing of the future in a great way.  How are we going to get there?  How do we get enough lithium and Nickel to make that happen and what do we do in the meantime?

 

My Liberal brother argues that we should shut down gas stations, yet he doesn't even know what lithium is.  Don't be one of those people.  Batteries aren't magic.

Edited on Jul 23, 2022 5:57pm
Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

Is that the Virigin Island refinery that spit oil over the residences, local farmlands, and potable  water sources making thousands sick and destroying countless acres of farmland?    Yeah, Biden didnt allow that to expand.   Boilerman is free to buy a vacation home in one of the contaminated areas - I suspect he will get a good price.

 

And I loved the "opinion" article from the know-nothing opinion authors who claim Canadian tar sands transported from the proposed pipeline would lower US gas prices.    Anyone with a novice level of information about the oil industry know the tar sands can not be refined in US refineries which are designed for light sweet crude from fracking.    Almost all of the canadian tar sands would have to be shipped over seas  to refineries that can handle it.     And since the "opinion" authors are unaware of this elementary fact their opinion is worth about as much as a degree from Trump University

 

What else ya got?

 

 


"Tar sands can not be refined in US refineries"?  That is completely false.  Much of the Gulf Coast refinery infrastructure is set up to process heavy/sour crude oil, which used to come from Venezuela.  In fact oil from Canadian tar sands is being refined in the US as we speak and has been for over a decade at over 60 US refineries. 

 

I guess we know what PJs opinion on this is worth.  Less than Joe Biden's fake 3 degrees or his phony full scholarship to law school....I'm thinking maybe he didn't even graduate in the top half of his class like Joe.


You mean the gulf refineries that predominantly export to other countries?   True!   Good point, Charles.   They are equipped to handle tar sands.   Whic( is why the Keystone pipeline was directed there.   Increasingly the heavy oil going to those ports is shipped unrefined to places like Europe.    

 

by contrast, The refineries that feed our domestic supply overwhelmingly can't handle the tar sands crap....which is why the only people who say Keystone Xl would lower US gas prices are Republican pundits or know nothing opinion writers.

 

and even if keystone XL was built it amounts to a  1% increase in world crude supply.   So....keystone would knock that $100/barrel price tag down to the bargain price of $99.    If that's the anchor of your energy solution then you don't bring much to the table. 

you want to make a case for the North America to be a bigger exporter of oil then you can make an intelligent case for Keystone XL.     You want to make a case for cheaper gas at your neighborhood pump then The Keystone argument is worthy of being laughed at

Edited on Jul 23, 2022 7:43pm
Originally posted by: Boilerman

PJ, I have zero issue with our government stopping an environmental mess.  I didn't see the Virgin Island refinery mentioned in the article, and neither did you.  Electric cars are a good thing and they will be a thing of the future in a great way.  How are we going to get there?  How do we get enough lithium and Nickel to make that happen and what do we do in the meantime?

 

My Liberal brother argues that we should shut down gas stations, yet he doesn't even know what lithium is.  Don't be one of those people.  Batteries aren't magic.


You mentioned Biden blocking refinery expansion.  The Virgin Island facility is the only one I'm aware of where he's done so.    Feel free to correct me with a verifiable link if you have information on another and I will concede the point.

PJ is confused about a few things.

 

1.  PJ claimes that Canada's tar sands oil is sweet, and can't be refined by many US refineries.  PJ is 100% wrong.  This oil is very sour, and can be refined by many US refineries.  In fact, they blend this exceptionally sour oil with sweet crude to make it useable.

 

2.  PJ claims that Gulf refineries are exporting oil.  I thought that most of us knew that oil refineries don't produce oil, but instead they refine oil.  We export sweet crude because we don't have enough oil refineries that use this stuff.  We then import the sour crude that we need.  We should be getting more oil from Canada (it's sour and cheap), instead of begging Venezuala and Saudi Arabia for more oil.

Just more of the same ludicrous Con argument that the current high price of gas is due to a shortage of crude.

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

You Cons will swallow anything. And your reasoning skills would shame a small child. The fossil fuel companies, who act on their own initiative and don't take orders from Biden or anyone else, have been restricting the supply of GASOLINE---not crude oil---in order to keep prices nice and high. And they enlist Cons to deflect the blame for them. Good doggy, Boiler!

 

By the way, since gas prices have come down recently, where's the Con praise for Biden? You know, since he's the one solely responsible for the price of gas. I read that right here!

Kevin, once again provides no logical argument to my point.  This oil is a double win.  They need to blend in sweet crude, and we have too much of this, plus the stuff sells for 10% discount off of imported sour crude.

 

You know, a win/win for Americans and Canadians.

Why do you suppose the tar sands producers want to pipe their oil 2000 miles to refineries on the other end of the continent when there are 100 other refineries that are geographically closer?     

Answer:   See my previous post

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