If we had sustainable energy, we could ignore the goddamn Middle East

It's not a matter of "reliance," it's that oil markets are worldwide. If the rest of the world needs oil, well, then, our domestic producer will sell to them at the world market price, and domestically only at that price. Now, that does produce an inflow of capital, but it doesn't go to us--it goes to the mega corporations that stole it from us.

Other countries with high petroleum production give their citizens a huge break with fuel prices. We don't. That's because we have noble free market capitalism instead of SOOOCIALISM. In civilized countries, the oil in the ground is considered to be a shared asset that belongs to the people. Not here! 

Re intermittent power sources and storage: hydropower solves that problem. And if there are "intermittent" sources such as wind and solar, that would greatly reduce the rate at which the reservoirs are drawn down to generate power. Lakes Powell and Mead, etc. function as immense batteries, and solar and wind would recharge them, along with rainfall.

We can make fertilizer in sufficient quantities to deal with a worldwide shortage, but I was talking only about energy. The US has quite a lot of potash reserves, FWIW.

I live to serve !

China renwable GWh = 3,762,830  as of Jan 2026 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renewable_energy_in_China

United States total of all electricity sources = 4,178,000 

https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=427&t=3

"China is the world's top electricity producer from renewable energy sources. China's renewable energy capacity is growing faster than its fossil fuels and nuclear power capacity.^[1] China installed over 430 GW of renewables in 2025, reaching a total installed renewable capacity of over 2.34 TW by the end of the year.^[2] The country aims to achieve peak emissions by 2030 and carbon neutrality by 2060;^[3] emissions may have already peaked in 2024, six years ahead of the 2030 goal.^[4]"

And it gets better (or worse) depending on your point of view.

China created 7.4 million jobs just in Wind/Solar alone by their investment in the Green New Scam.

What a shame we surrenderd that industry to them instead of investing and leading the world ourselves.   But, ya know, Venezeula or something.

https://www.scmp.com/business/china-business/article/3284788/chinas-clean-energy-boom-creates-74-million-jobs-nearly-half-global-total

Yet another thing we can thank MAGA for!

And think back to all the stupid MAGA justifications for sticking with fossil fuels that we've heard from Boilerboob, stupid Tom, and Millerscum;

Wind power is useless because the wind isn't always blowing.

Solar power is useless because the sun isn't always shining.

Hydro power is useless because it's not always raining.

Nuclear power is useless, because Chernobyl.

Fossil fuels are the only energy source we can possibly use, because the sun, the wind, and the rain don't contribute to the Republican party.

It's downright tragicomic that Trump has such a raging hard-on for China, but he and his cult are doing their utmost to ensure that they achieve world domination and leave us in the dust.

Hydropower is great, but the libs want to take down all the dams.  You know what's better?   Nuclear, but libs hate constant cheap power.  They want you to live in a tiny box dependent on their form of government and use as few resources as they deem you should have.

That's simply a stupid thing to say. "The libs" do NOT "want to take down all the dams." Have any evidence of that desire on their part? I didn't think so.

There have been some efforts to remove a FEW dams THAT HAVE EXCEEDED THEIR DESIGN LIFE. Dams, especially those constructed where the soil is rocky or sandy, have a problem with siltation. The particulates that would normally be carried downstream accumulate and settle behind the dam. Eventually, the reservoir is just one big mud flat.

You really do show your ignorance sometimes. "The libs" here in the Pacific Northwest LOVE hydropower. It's cheap, it has contributed to growth, and it's non-polluting.

The libs" here in the Pacific Northwest LOVE hydropower. It's cheap, it has contributed to growth, and it's non-polluting.

There is the truth and there is what what kevin says.  The 2 are not usually the same

https://energycommerce.house.gov/posts/top-things-to-know-about-president-biden-s-secret-plan-to-dismantle-the-snake-river-dams

Jan 29,2024

Despite the importance of the dams, the White House Council on Environmental Quality (CEQ) has led closed-door negotiations to breach the Lower Snake River Dams. CEQ has ignored the concerns of people living in the Pacific Northwest. This process, which was supposed to be open and transparent, has instead consisted of an undisclosed number of backdoor meetings between a select group of organizations and individuals. This small group is attempting to dictate decisions for the entire region—decisions that will significantly impact electricity rates, transportation, grid reliability, food and energy security, and the future of river-dependent communities.

Yo, stupid, isn't your idiot post a perfect example of Pacific Northwest residents wanting to PRESERVE hydroelectric dams?

So often, your fuddled brain causes you to support the very statements you're trying to contradict!!

Fucking idiot! 😀😀😀😀😀😀

Then there's Lake Mead. Libs don't want to take down all the dams. 

WTF, To the person using the name Inigo, please explain the libs want to take down the dams. Please elaborate instead of making your ridiculous statements and moving on. Tell us more. Share your knowledge with us.