The January 6 hearings are really working according to the metrics of The Kitchen Sink.

Originally posted by: Charles Higgins

It's clear our previous President made fatal mistakes regarding Jan 6. In my mind a crucial issue was his apparent deranged behavior regarding manipulative attempts toward Pence and others around him pertinent to the election outcome. Numerous court election challenges support Biden's win, and it's just a fact. I didn't like that outcome, but it is what it is.

 

I voted for Trump..twice. I agree with some of his tenure decisions regarding fiscal / monetary policies, national defense, and yes, the major tax cut efforts (admittedly, I benefitted directly from said cuts). No liberal arguments will change my view of his approaches in those areas..those who choose to disagree have the liberty to..I'll agree to disagree. Over the course of his tenure, I didn't particularly like his style of communication, eg "look what I did"..self-aggrandizing methods employed too often. Too much flutter..and too much Twitter. 

 

I think Trump is done. On to DeSantis in 2024..there's some gas for the dumpster fire in here. Fuel on.

 

Cheers.


I can barely understand any reaction to Trump that falls short of unmitigated loathing. I'm not going to ask you what you found appealing about him or what on God's green earth made you think he was fit to be President--because the answers I always get when I ask that sort of question are self-serving, self-justifying nonsense, usually garnished with lies and conspiracy theories.

 

Re his tax breaks for the rich: they created a $2 trillion deficit. Before that, the RepubliQ preened itself as the "party of fiscal responsibility" and decried ALL THEM LIBURRUL DEFICITS. After that...not so much. And just so you know, dude..."the government shouldn't be starved of revenue" isn't a liberal idea. It's a rational idea.

 

In similar fashion to the above, I'm not going to speculate on what mindset makes you think that DeSantis is anything other than a grandstanding, conspiracy theory-spouting asshole. How he mishandled the pandemic is emblematic of his overall incompetence. And if you don't like self-aggrandizement...? DeSantis is the new poster child for that.

 

Since you seem like a reasonable person, I think you should step back and take a good long introspective look, and try to figure out why you support the party of treason, irrationality, bigotry, and demagoguery. (I wonder if I spelled that correctly.) There was a LOT more wrong with Trump than his boorish communication style. But you deliberately overlooked that. Why?

Originally posted by: Mark

The current mood here is a lot like it was during the aftermath of the 2020 election.


I don't think it's varied much since the 2016 election, actually. Two sides that don't just have political and ideological disagreements--they have fundamental differences in how they perceive and define reality. The RepubliQ became conspiracy theory-driven wackadoodles when they dropped their panties for Trump. That hasn't changed at all since they bent over in 2016.

 

For me, the most surprising thing about the RepubliQ is how utterly amoral they've become--the shit they're willing to do in the pursuit of absolute and permanent power. As far as this message board is concerned, bozos raving away on the internet is pretty much a given. If the Trumpy shit wasn't a thing, they'd find something else to babble about, like that liberal hoax climate change or that everybody who isn't white should die.

Pj, I didn't change the subject. Mp asked why conservatives are not talking about the Jan 6 Inquisition. Charles & I listed the real issues facing Americans & why we are not interested. 


The Federal Reserve has studies that show bideneconomics contribute around 3 points to the US inflation. There are numerous countries (Japan for ex) with lower inflation. 

if wages go up 5% & inflation is 9% that is a decline in std of living. 

Price & value are the same thing. If someone wants to pay $2 for something & the other party agrees that is the value.

 

Over 409,000 people have entered the country this year without being caught by the border patrol. That is an open border. 

New Kevin stupidity- a strong economy caused crime to go up. 

 

No tom, I did not ask "why conservatives are not talking about the Jan 6 Inquisition."

 

I pointed out that right-wingers here, for the most part, weren't talking about ANYTHING at all on these boards. If you look at the number of posts since the hearings started, you'll see my observation is correct.

 

My question is why?


@Kevin..I didn't overlook a thing from MY perspective. I outlined the areas I agreed with re: his policies..and strongly disagreed with the means by which he handled everyday communication and now his personal behavior regarding Pence, et al. The latter is indicative of a damaged character..I admit that. So, don't add or subtract from what my post inferred. Tax cuts unavoidably add to deficits, I don't care who signs the bill. Deficit spending is a big burr under my saddle, too. There are numerous other items that could have been listed from my personal perspective..both judged either good and / or bad depending on the beholder. To what end, however? More online forum screaming and additional  asshole labelings ? The latter doesn't contribute to any kind of meaningful solution or change for EITHER side..it just exponentially compounds the divide. No thanks..I'd rather just dissociate from that game. Ultimately, how does such an approach engender meaningful change? "Fuck you and go die" is a poor negotiation platform in my view.

 

There's merit in the base differences between your side and my side..that reality aspect that you and another poster referred to. Another aspect of reality is that both sides stances are both necessary and unavoidable in this republic..historically that was fully expected / anticipated since our founding. Those guys knew 'sides' were an unavoidable element of the American contest / progression. I completely allow you and your side to disagree with me on anything..that's a part of that anticipated reality.  How an argument is presented keeps members of both sides in the so-called 'fight" until at least the next round, though ideologies / issue stances might never change. Again, it isn't necessarily what is said but how it's presented.The discongruity between political sides is natural and expected..I don't foresee any change in that axiom. Go vote.

 

And yes, you spelled demogoguery correctly. So, we agree on one thing at least..though I'm aware that there'll be limits to that sky cloud. And you know what, that's OK.

 

 

Originally posted by: tom

Pj, I didn't change the subject. Mp asked why conservatives are not talking about the Jan 6 Inquisition. Charles & I listed the real issues facing Americans & why we are not interested. 


The Federal Reserve has studies that show bideneconomics contribute around 3 points to the US inflation. There are numerous countries (Japan for ex) with lower inflation. 

if wages go up 5% & inflation is 9% that is a decline in std of living. 

Price & value are the same thing. If someone wants to pay $2 for something & the other party agrees that is the value.

 

Over 409,000 people have entered the country this year without being caught by the border patrol. That is an open border. 

New Kevin stupidity- a strong economy caused crime to go up. 

 


No, stupid Tommie-poo; I said that crime increases when economic activity increases. That's been true for over a century. One does NOT cause the other. But you're far too stupid to understand the distinction between causation and correlation.

 

Stupid Tommie-poo.

Originally posted by: Charles Higgins

@Kevin..I didn't overlook a thing from MY perspective. I outlined the areas I agreed with re: his policies..and strongly disagreed with the means by which he handled everyday communication and now his personal behavior regarding Pence, et al. The latter is indicative of a damaged character..I admit that. So, don't add or subtract from what my post inferred. Tax cuts unavoidably add to deficits, I don't care who signs the bill. Deficit spending is a big burr under my saddle, too. There are numerous other items that could have been listed from my personal perspective..both judged either good and / or bad depending on the beholder. To what end, however? More online forum screaming and additional  asshole labelings ? The latter doesn't contribute to any kind of meaningful solution or change for EITHER side..it just exponentially compounds the divide. No thanks..I'd rather just dissociate from that game. Ultimately, how does such an approach engender meaningful change? "Fuck you and go die" is a poor negotiation platform in my view.

 

There's merit in the base differences between your side and my side..that reality aspect that you and another poster referred to. Another aspect of reality is that both sides stances are both necessary and unavoidable in this republic..historically that was fully expected / anticipated since our founding. Those guys knew 'sides' were an unavoidable element of the American contest / progression. I completely allow you and your side to disagree with me on anything..that's a part of that anticipated reality.  How an argument is presented keeps members of both sides in the so-called 'fight" until at least the next round, though ideologies / issue stances might never change. Again, it isn't necessarily what is said but how it's presented.The discongruity between political sides is natural and expected..I don't foresee any change in that axiom. Go vote.

 

And yes, you spelled demogoguery correctly. So, we agree on one thing at least..though I'm aware that there'll be limits to that sky cloud. And you know what, that's OK.

 

 


Sure, we can be on different sides. The point I was trying to make is that choosing Trump isn't the same as choosing a side. He was objectively completely wrong for the job, irrespective of anyone's ideology. He shat on as many Republican ideals as he did Democratic ones.

 

And the ongoing specious argument made by Republicans and their successor mutation, the RepubliQ is that opposition to Trump was purely partisan. Nothing could be further from the truth.

 

I'd love it if you had the inclination and ability to engage in honest introspection and ask yourself why you voted for that horrid man. 2016 was perhaps understandable. But it 2020, you knew the meat was rotten but you still took a healthy bite. That seems both inexplicable and inexcusable.

I said that crime increases when economic activity increases.

 

Crime started to increase in 2020, a weak economic year.  We are on the verge of a recession & crime is still going up.  The economy had nothing to do with the 2 cops murdered in LA this week.  Bad policies by gascon that let him go are.

 

Stupid comment from stupid kevin

Edited on Jun 17, 2022 2:32pm

I pointed out that right-wingers here, for the most part, weren't talking about ANYTHING at all

 

The recent threads have been dumb statements from the toad & kevin's rants.  No need to comment or get involved

Originally posted by: tom

I pointed out that right-wingers here, for the most part, weren't talking about ANYTHING at all

 

The recent threads have been dumb statements from the toad & kevin's rants.  No need to comment or get involved


Yeah, but you guys are WAY down when it comes to starting threads too. So there has been a bit of a disappearing act.

 

What's your explanation?

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