Lithium

Originally posted by: Boilerman

I have zero problem with money being spent on charging stations and lithium mining.  I don't want the funds to come from government, however.


Well, you're welcome to embrace any dogma you want, but this one is completely out of step with American history--again.  The Founding Fathers and their offspring enthusiastically spent government funds on hundreds of miles of roads (e.g The National Road), canals (e.g. The Eric Canal), and harbors.  The next generation, both at the state and national level, feverishly financed,  subsidized, and gifted government land to build thousands of miles of railroad lines (e.g. Transcontinental Railroad, The Illinois Central RR).  When the automobile was just beginning, the federal government built any number of interstate roads--national roads--beginning as early as in the 1920s (The Lincoln Road) and extending through the trillion dollar--and on going--Eisenhower Interstate Highway System.  The entire nuclear industry--from medicine to power generation--was a completely government development and funded industry; as was the development of radar (at the federally funded Rad Lab at MIT) which exists on every river craft, ship, plane and--in a modified version--on every new car; as was the computer industry when the government hired and funded IBM to develop the first advanced computers to run and manage NORAD, and then developed, funded, and standardized the internet; as was the recent developments in genetic editing and resulting medical therapies--at government financed labs at Berkeley, MIT, and Harvard.  If you think that the government--both national, state, and local--have not funded, subsidized, and otherwise supported new technologies, you are just showing your ignorance of American history--again. 

Originally posted by: Boilerman

 How did the internal combustion engine make it without government subsidies?  Hell, most Liberals and certainly Kevin hates every big business...........now you guys want to give 'em money.

 

I don't.


The internal combustion engine received trillions of government subsidies, in the form of federally sponsored road networks.

 

Are you that ignorant?

Originally posted by: tom

The bullet train in Ca is billions over budget, with no idea when it will be done. Amtrak loses millions. The post office is inefficient. One example I can walk to 4 post offices. They should be consolidated into one. 

Attempts at universal health care has been tried in several states & dropped because of cost. Government efficiency is a fantasy in the minds of socialists like Kevin 


Actually, stupid Boiler, what I've been saying has zoomed right over your head. An "efficient" post office wouldn't serve rural communities and isolated customers. That's why it's not a for-profit enterprise. The post office does not exist to make money.

 

Universal health care saves money. I won't argue that with you. There are hundreds of examples worldwide---and Oregon has had it for three decades.

 

You're an idiot. 

FedEx delivers nationwide, so there is reason why an efficient post office wouldn't 

 

Oregon does not have universal health care. They have the Oregon Health Plan which offers free health based on income. 

In 2019 they passed a bill for a task force on it, but nothing has been done. No state has universal health care. 

Kevin is either lying (again) (delusional as usual) or doesn't know what is happening in his own state. 


Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

Who do you think builds the roads the cars drive on?  ....and the biggest project was liberal Dwight Eisenhauer's highway system.

 

Boilerman doesnt seem to understand basic facts of history ...or consider the pitfalls of his "no government" ideology.   Maybe thats why he likes to change the topic.


Um, road building companies build our roads.

Originally posted by: tom

FedEx delivers nationwide, so there is reason why an efficient post office wouldn't 

 

Oregon does not have universal health care. They have the Oregon Health Plan which offers free health based on income. 

In 2019 they passed a bill for a task force on it, but nothing has been done. No state has universal health care. 

Kevin is either lying (again) (delusional as usual) or doesn't know what is happening in his own state. 


No one can be refused coverage in Oregon, including if they can't afford it. Everyone who wants coverage can get it.

 

So wrong again, dumb fuck.

 

And if you think FedEx would ever deliver a letter for the price of a first class stamp...God, you're stupid.

Originally posted by: Boilerman

Um, road building companies build our roads.


Don't pretend to be so obtuse as to not know that most roads are and have been built under government contracts.

 

You look like a fool when you try to ignore reality.

Originally posted by: Boilerman

Um, road building companies build our roads.


You don't really have to try to be dense--it's obvious on a daily basis.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Don't pretend to be so obtuse as to not know that most roads are and have been built under government contracts.

 

You look like a fool when you try to ignore reality.


If government was in charge of technology decisions for the music industry , we would all be enjoying 8 track technology today.  Never let government decide what technology wins.  It's a stupid losing proposition 

Originally posted by: Boilerman

If government was in charge of technology decisions for the music industry , we would all be enjoying 8 track technology today.  Never let government decide what technology wins.  It's a stupid losing proposition 


You're completely ignorant of this country's history, aren't you?

 

(And what's even more hilarious: much of the technology used by the music industry today, including digital recording, was first developed by government agencies.)

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